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CC vs CC Event

• 2,840 Posts

  Sat, Oct 11 2014 9:10 AM

  2DAMFLASHY:

  what a mess...

  i notice ..shoe removing comment from his meet a greet on skype...

  guess its ok to meet him ..as long as ya don't ask about the latest scam... i learned my lesson back when they cheeted me out of over 2000 views i had saved up... an reduced the pay out on em without a words notice...

  so..i just play the game..with friends ..

  i had gotten over it..an even had sorta started to ..put a lil trust in ole shoe... from the kwazy turnys an such...

  but... will back off..again... ..the sad feed back even from WGT admin... to me even seams really lame,,

  to award the putter .. to a CC that won from a glitch is just beyond my realm of thinking...

  they even posted it on FB...like it was a great success... .. WOW .. some gall ..

  greedyness has always irk'd me .. if they said sorry an gave all ther ,,creds an balls back...id be their first to eat my words an apologize,,,

  i didnt play in the clash.... but did get miffe'd when a friend an i try;d to use our CC pass...just as normal...because we been play'n 1 at the most points time..in order to get to level 4...

  and ...i be dang...it wouldn't let us use it... so ..i did write a nice not mean note ... but .. just got back a bla bla bla ..responce.. mite as well said ..2DAMBAD...  see ya..

  meet an greet... pfffft..  .. right now.. i wudn't answer the door ..if CHAD himself was knokin on it..

  its just dissapointing..when something ..i really think HIGH ly of an wanna be proud of... DUZ such ,, an then hides...or worse...wants to have a party the day after... an act like nothing happend

  peace ...

   

  Ask away I didn't delete that lost because I am side stepping a question.  That thread was to give players a way to contact me and not turn it into another Clash thread.  

   

  - WGTdbloshoe

• karedak 1,049 Posts

  Sat, Oct 11 2014 9:21 AM

  wgt should give every cc  there credits back for passes bought during this clash game ....as for the owner defending the player who scored points on a course that was not even in the clash ,,,,as for wgt response apart from refunding all who took part except the bug brigade ,they should be addressing the honest country clubs before it starts costing them a shortfall in there profits ,when people start to spend less and less on equipment ,,,,,,,,,,,

   

• zagraniczniak 1,984 Posts

  Sat, Oct 11 2014 9:23 AM

  Shoe,

  Nice to see you.

  We don't want an answer now. Enjoy your weekend, but in due course we implore WGT to give this a proper investigation and take the appropriate measures under your own terms and conditions.

  - Zag

• dedBuNNy 1,919 Posts

  Sat, Oct 11 2014 9:30 AM

  All 'pleasantries' aside... ;-)

  I don't think you quite realize what your actions with respect to circumventing, what are clear rules as put forth by WGT have done. These rules apply to all participating and playing this game, when your CC entered into the 'Clash' and a player representing ANCC knowingly started exploiting a flaw in the tournament setup, at that point you stepped over a line.

  You're right, sitting in a forum replying back and forth is ultimately not very productive.

  You know what is productive? Finding out the total real world dollar value that was spent by the hundreds of players in what was clearly a futile pursuit, as for all intense purposes the event was compromised by ANCC violating and exploiting WGT's rules. 

  Causing financial interference and distress isn't limited to events only in the physical day to day world. It's very very much applicable within the 'virtual world' as well as it relates to finances and transactions.

  You might simply view this as people tossing around digital golf balls and spending game credits, well those credits cost real money. ANCC's, what can only be described as, deceitful and approved of actions? They caused financial distress and loss to a great number of players on WGT who in good faith entered into what they thought was a fair competition to be played by like minded CC's and players. 

  Is WGT at fault here? You bet, but in their defense, if you can call it that, they only set the tournament environment up. They didn't direct you to exploit a 'flaw' in that setup, you did that on your own. If you walked by a bank and all the doors were open would you walk in and help yourself to money? Most of the players buying those cc passes to try and catch ANCC were spending real money to do so.

  Do you think they would have had they known what you were doing? How you were stacking and dumping points by exploiting the 'flaw'? 

  I don't know what the total would be, I'm betting it's in the many thousands of dollars. There are a great number of players out that money... and they aren't happy about it. 

   

   

• ISH47 1,963 Posts

  Sat, Oct 11 2014 9:30 AM

  bigseanbig:

  I’m am defending my club and my members for what happened.  The purpose of the event was to have players buy and use as many CC Passes as possible in the shortest amount of time.  That was the event set up by WGT.  

  The CC Clash event gives the impression that it was thought up in a room by a bunch of guys that asked "what's the best way to make as much money as possible out of this event"? "How about lets create a fking Golden putter with "out of this world" stats and hang it above their noses just out of reach and create a event where the only chance of getting that holy grail is to drop shietloads of $ on CC Passes over and over again.

  It makes it into a "who can buy the most passes and use them the fastest" and we only did exactly what WGT wanted us to do and made a mockery out of the event. Why would WGT let an event go live without test it first?

  Here are the reasons we won and what contributed most to our win based on the system WGT set up:

  1)     Huge 250 member club with a few very committed members that could play for 14 hours straight

  2)     Basically unlimited cash and credits to burn

  3)     Finding the BoP (We actually posted this in the forum during the event)

  People say without doing the BoP, we wouldn’t have won and that in finding the loophole we had an advantage, and yes we did have an advantage.  However, if we didn’t find the BoP loophole (someone was going to find it eventually), we would have used ULTRA SPEED UP BOOST for every shot and it would have only taken slightly longer than BoP each round and would have given us the same speed advantage (we thought why do that and give WGT more money, not to mention hits on balls) and people would probably call that “cheating” as well.

  The same guy that played 59 rounds of BoP could have and would have played over 100 rounds of a normal 9 hole course (for that putter) with ULTRA SPEED UP BOOST in the time allowed because he calculated it and had the time to play.  We could have gotten over double the amount of points we put up even playing normal 9-hole courses because we had multiple people playing day and night and dropping passes like crazy. The only reason we stopped was because we were well ahead.

  I don’t feel bad giving out the Golden Putter because I feel that the member deserved it with his commitment to the game. The only thing i feel bad about is not being able to give a Golden Putter to all my members that participated or anyone else that participated. If you want to know how great the putter is here is a quote “putter doesnt help really lol oh well it looks cool” so next time don’t get sucked in to WGT’s advertising and hype.  I myself had exams so I didn’t participate at all in the event but congratulate my club for winning this “WGT event” if you can call it that. 

   

   

  Wow.. I appreciate your honesty.

  I assume you'd go to the same lengths to win any WGT event, as would the other members of your club. 

  Very illuminating indeed..

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Sat, Oct 11 2014 9:33 AM

  WGTdbloshoe:

  Ask away I didn't delete that lost because I am side stepping a question.  That thread was to give players a way to contact me and not turn it into another Clash thread.  

   

  - WGTdbloshoe

  Get your point.  I posted their too because I was in amazement at the debacle that unfolded, and just wanted it that some one at least had the point.  Unfortunately for WGT any half competent authority would call that day light robbery by exploitation.  I saw what was going on pretty early, but that's no excuse for what for what WGT let run.  Calling it a grossly incompetent foul up is giving it the benefit that some honesty and vale was intended.  As it stands I am finding it hard to give any positive to WGT.  To actually witness this one unfold from the start of the XP Grab to this well if I wrote it I think I would be told it's to far fetched for fiction........It's really difficult to overstate the magnitude of this debacle which included extreme dishonesty either by design or incompetence.  And WGT expects this just to pass...enough points made

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Sat, Oct 11 2014 9:34 AM

  WGTdbloshoe:

  Ask away I didn't delete that lost because I am side stepping a question.  That thread was to give players a way to contact me and not turn it into another Clash thread.  

   

  - WGTdbloshoe

  Get your point.  I posted their too because I was in amazement at the debacle that unfolded, and just wanted it that some one at least had the point.  Unfortunately for WGT any half competent authority would call that day light robbery by exploitation.  I saw what was going on pretty early, but that's no excuse for what for what WGT let run.  Calling it a grossly incompetent foul up is giving it the benefit that some honesty and vale was intended.  As it stands I am finding it hard to give any positive to WGT.  To actually witness this one unfold from the start of the XP Grab to this well if I wrote it I think I would be told it's to far fetched for fiction........It's really difficult to overstate the magnitude of this debacle which included extreme dishonesty either by design or incompetence.  And WGT expects this just to pass...If this was high street shop the closed sign would be up whilst it was investigated....enough points made

• fourdude 1,311 Posts

  Sat, Oct 11 2014 9:37 AM

  Well written, and I have no ill feelings towards you or your club, wgt on the other hand is a different story....ripoff, joke, etc. they all apply, I too dropped a bundle on passes only to be totally disappointed by this get rich quick ( wgt did) scheme.

• liam91 3,130 Posts

  Sat, Oct 11 2014 9:43 AM

  i wonder what Chad is saying  at WGT HQ at the moment ,is it

  "you bunch of idiot developers and engineers, you took a great idea and totally messed it up, now i'm going to have to go onto the forums and explain to everyone what happened ,i will have to apologise to everyone that took part in the CC v CC clash and refund all the money they spent on passes and ball usage".

  or will the conversation be 

  "oh well guys that didn't go quite as planned but we made a few bucks out of it"

  or even

  "wow guys, i can't believe what those idiots will fall for ,like taking candy off a baby, to easy...lol"

  for the sake of WGT's integrity and reputation i hope it's the 1st conversation and if it is and they do the right thing i will applaud them from the rooftops and sing their praises to every player i meet on this site

  Mike

  P.S. really gents before the next 1 of these have a chat with Carlo and Alberto who are running the country club grand prix event

   

• cdefghi 2,872 Posts

  Sat, Oct 11 2014 9:49 AM

  The old saying you can change the stripes on a Zebra and you still have a Zebra, holds as true as the blatant rip off we all just witnessed. Basically the proprietors of this site are crooks and care about nothing but their bottom line, no matter how dishonest they have to be to make it larger.  In the end this one big windfall will be negated by the forthcoming loss in revenue from decreased pass sales.  From this day forward I use my free passes and nothing else.