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Wed, Oct 15 2014 12:01 PM (12 replies)
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  • thesnakeyes
    892 Posts
    Wed, Oct 15 2014 4:15 AM

    Wow finally found a leader board tucked away very quietly here

    http://www.wgt.com/forums/t/264790.aspx

     wanted to reply but the thread is locked. How WGT has even the gall to post this is beyond me as by WGTs own rules scores are not final until verified.  It is obvious that these scores were not verified as to my knowledge so far a least 2 and maybe more of the top teams were not actually playing the correct tournament but in fact cheating their way to the top (oops sorry exploiting a loophole which in wgt terms does not count as cheating). I would like to see a revised leader board where all the clubs who had not played the correct courses have their scores and entry into the competition totally expunged so we can have a true reflection of that leaderboard. Any other sport takes back titles etc prizes et al if some one was found to be cheating so why cant WGT do the same. 5 days now and not even a smidgin of a response from anyone at WGT. On a positive note I would like to congratulate all my members at No Quitters Here Please on their great effort to secure 15th place against the backdrop of that cheating.

     

    Still flogging the dead horse

     

    thesnakeyes (owner no quitters here please)

  • happyman123uk
    1,242 Posts
    Wed, Oct 15 2014 4:30 AM

    I will be checking all the scores out and will name every club that has cheated

    Sod them all you cheated your club will be named!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • stevepsheehan
    2,791 Posts
    Wed, Oct 15 2014 4:46 AM

    happyman123uk:

    I will be checking all the scores out and will name every club that has cheated

    Sod them all you cheated your club will be named!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Not so easy to decide who deliberately cheated, and who simply got swept up in it.

    For example, our CC originally had no intention (at least, from the organiser's perspective) of getting involved in the clash. However, as it was open to anyone to initiate it, we found ourselves in it anyway.

    Then, even players that had no intention of playing any clash matches ( and I include myself here) played other, regular games, but had our scores applied to the clash anyway. I don't even know which of my games counted, but I do know I somehow scored 55 points towards our team total. 

    So yes, I played non-clash games, and was awarded points for them - did I cheat? No.

    Could it LOOK like I cheated? Well maybe. And I'm sure there will be tens of thousands of other players in similar situations. Where do you draw the line? Had someone played 10 straight CTTH rounds, which many of our CC members do regularly, would that look even more like they were cheating? Probably, but it would still have been completely innocent.

    I fully accept that the more outrageous examples are easy to spot, but there is a whole range of possibilities down from there, to the likes of me, and where you draw the line between deliberate cheating and accidental, unintended scoring in the clash is quite beyond me.

    Anyone setting themselves up as Judge, Jury, and Executioner has to be able to answer that question clearly from the start, but I don't believe a clear answer is possible.

    I think this witch hunt needs to be dropped. In-fighting will get us nowhere. The real "culprits" here are WGT, so let's not forget that.

    Steve

  • PTrenter
    437 Posts
    Wed, Oct 15 2014 4:49 AM

    The fact that that the CC I'm in won all its individual matches and didn't make that terribly chopped together table shows how rubbish the whole CC Clash idea was/is.

    Tell it how it is WGT.  The individual match results are just a meaningless sideshow to the Leaderboard of most passes bought.   You are so out of touch with what your customer base wants it's laughable, especially as what they want is in a big list on one of the other WGT forums.

  • groverider1
    228 Posts
    Wed, Oct 15 2014 5:02 AM

    I am not a happy bunny.I should have won that 

    golden putter.No body desevers it more than me.

    I wish I had cheated.To be honest I blame upper

    management ,for missing out on the loop hole.

    Come on guys.I think head should roll for this

    debacle.We need management who know how

    to cheat and win at any cost.

     

    GR1 

  • nonstoptaxi
    52 Posts
    Wed, Oct 15 2014 10:07 AM

    spare a thought for club senior citizens who came 6th, spent all their pension on it. :)

    http://i.imgur.com/feYSIpN.jpg

     

    dont care if they take the putter away from him for being a cheat, but take the annoying popup window out of my screen which everytime ask me to use cc pass or buy it as i start the game.

  • happyman123uk
    1,242 Posts
    Wed, Oct 15 2014 10:26 AM

    [View:http://www.wgt.com/themes/wgt/utility/ photo ccclashpeoplesclub.png:550:100]

    How's this to start with check what they called the tournament and there was more that 12 that took part

  • filmslayer
    2,341 Posts
    Wed, Oct 15 2014 10:41 AM

    must be nice to have nothing else to worry about ...

  • jayw4862
    3,364 Posts
    Wed, Oct 15 2014 10:45 AM

    Hmmmm

    I don't think posting that is a good idea. I'm glad you did (gained a different perspective). I'm sure this thread will find it's way to the trash, soon.

    Be careful naming players, or calling out who you believe to be cheats. Best thing to do is let the Clash fade away and hope WGT fixes it and makes it 100% fair, or scraps it.

  • Woodoworkery
    3,498 Posts
    Wed, Oct 15 2014 10:57 AM

    To think this was all over a putter, what's going to happen when the irons are presented, you start dropping that ball within 1-2 and you don't need that putter

     

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