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Wedges : Cleveland CG16 or TaylorMade ATV

• EmmanuelOfFAR 29 Posts

  Wed, Oct 22 2014 2:46 AM

  Hi,

   

  I'm near level 89 (which unlock the last wedge TaylorMade ATV) and i'm asking a question : What's the better ? Cleveland CG16 or TaylorMade ATV...

   

  There's 0,5 less of precision with ATV but 1,0 more of forgiveness... There's 0,5 less spin but i don't think spin of 4,5 is really necessary.

   

  Finally and for my poor reflexes, there's 0,5 more of precison with ATV that seems a lot.

   

  I usually play with WGT GI3-S balls...

   

  What is your opinion ??? (perhaps i can also wait a free rentals week-end)

• courteneyfish 15,796 Posts

  Wed, Oct 22 2014 11:10 AM

  More spin on Clevelands but the ATV's are easier to control. The 50 yard ATV is my favourite club.

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Wed, Oct 22 2014 11:27 AM

  Looks like he went with the CGs.

• SweetiePie 4,925 Posts

  Wed, Oct 22 2014 11:43 AM

  YankeeJim:

  Looks like he went with the CGs.

  Yes, he did :-|  By looking at his other clubs, he made a mistake. He should have gone with the ATVs. He will soon over-dose on back-spin & slight, late hits.

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Wed, Oct 22 2014 11:53 AM

  Heh. Was going to point out meter speeds. Instead of going with the same speed wedges he went with the faster ones. FWIW, matching meter speeds from driver to wedge makes a huge difference in tempo. I have one speed off the tee in the driver and the same speed for every other shot.  :-)

  p.s., I could make everything the same speed but that R1 is just too forgiving to let go. 

• JFidanza 1,676 Posts

  Wed, Oct 22 2014 11:59 AM

  edit: Jim beat me to it  :)         ↑↑      ↑↑

   

  By-gone topic, now, perhaps...

  But FWIW the ATV's meter speed matches the Nike 85s you seem to be using. (3.5)

  I like the Nike 85s and use them a lot and I wanted to learn the ATVs and put my Cleves in storage. (The Cleves meter rating is faster at 3, but that can match the Nike 97i)

  I didn't learn the ATVs to my liking so I didn't use the creds to get a set.

  But, agreed w/ SP, those Cleves are spin-a-licious, and as I finished a round with a starter ball, as my Nike ball ran out, I reminded myself that a Cleves can do a great job of backing up even the 'rock' as the ball rolled away from the hole.  ouch!

   

   

• dedBuNNy 1,919 Posts

  Wed, Oct 22 2014 12:24 PM

  courteneyfish:

  More spin on Clevelands but the ATV's are easier to control. The 50 yard ATV is my favourite club.

  The 50yd ATV is a magic wand, not a golf club. ;)

• SweetiePie 4,925 Posts

  Wed, Oct 22 2014 1:03 PM

  YankeeJim:

  FWIW, matching meter speeds from driver to wedge makes a huge difference in tempo. I have one speed off the tee in the driver and the same speed for every other shot.  :-)

   

  ain't it the truth ;-}

• budfan4861 183 Posts

  Wed, Oct 22 2014 2:33 PM

     Maybe someone can help me out here. I have toyed with the idea of getting the clevelands that carry to 80 & 100 yds to replace my ATVs. I have the cleveland that carries to 60 yds and love that i can stop the ball as well as back it up when need be. It comes in handy from close range at times. From farther out though, i kinda like the control the ATVs offer. My question is how much of a problem is controlling the backspin with the clevelands . Any help would be much appreciated.

• SweetiePie 4,925 Posts

  Wed, Oct 22 2014 3:16 PM

  budfan4861:

  My question is how much of a problem is controlling the backspin with the clevelands .

   

  I wouldn't say it is a problem as much as it is a tool that is available, but rarely needed at full throttle. Cleve spin, both top & back is extremely responsive to carefull, precise application,