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Sat, Nov 1 2014 12:02 AM (27 replies)
  • stevereilly
    5,915 Posts
    Wed, Oct 29 2014 6:31 PM

    I love this site, the courses are amazing.    There are so many amazing, friendly members of the WGT community.

    Just one bug bear though.......Why is it so necessary for WGT to squeeze every last credit out of the loyal players.      They really could have a great thing here,    however it seems as though WGT are trying really hard to alienate their customers.

    I don't know,  but talk of alienation,   maybe Yancy has the answers ?

  • Jimbog1964
    8,378 Posts
    Thu, Oct 30 2014 2:09 AM

    This is the bit I do not get.

    If you go on vacation it's nice to get fleeced over the whole week out of your budget, not have it all grabbed day 1. OK it's choices but at least feeling as if it's safe to let the kids out without being pestered for every last cheap penny every second is nice.

    The cynical inside me says WGT are worried about competition in the near future? They seem to want to grab it all this morning, and let tomorrow look after itself if it happens.

    New balls at 350 credits I thought unlike these guys.  Rather than test it for a week even, and see how they sell they want to give the customer a bloody nose, and make them only buy one set.  Heck they could have said limited offer, and extended that.

    That new driver price, spin and meter?  My guess is they wanted to add choices of spin, but stuffed it.  Any one that bought that should speak with CS if their specs were changed, but personally I won't be looking until choice of lofts come in.  It will also be at at least a free rental even then before I try it looking at the new price (think saw that bit somewhere anyway). EDIT: saw elsewhere this bit probably just a spoof anyway? I never checked.

  • dedBuNNy
    1,919 Posts
    Thu, Oct 30 2014 10:20 AM

    Just one bug bear though.......Why is it so necessary for WGT to squeeze every last credit out of the loyal players.

    The very simple and blunt answer?

    Because you and everyone like you, that includes me, as well as the other 98.98% of the players here are dimwitted friggin' idiots, degenerates, lazy, weak-willed junkies who don't have the presence of mind or capacity to organize into something resembling even the slightest bit like a cohesive unified group to say - ..i., Enough !! Let's see how you like us when we don't play for a month bitches! 

    When all the crakheads decide, "Hey, this sh*t's not really very good for us you know?", and they quit and become stock brokers and librarians, or run for office somewhere,  what do you think the dealers are gonna?

    Sayin'....

  • ApexPC
    3,164 Posts
    Thu, Oct 30 2014 10:24 AM

    Except the 2 TruGolf courses, we don't have to pay any green fees.

    Actually, I seem to recall reading that WGT lowered - by 1/2 - the greens fees for the 2 TruGolf courses a couple/some years back, and, we are often given a chance to play the TruGolf courses for free.

    If you don't want to pay for balls and clubs, you sure don't have to. We all have the option of playing WGT for free.

    No doubt - the free ball and clubs limit how well you can score, but the same applies with RL el cheapo (close to free) golf balls and clubs.

    But none the less - WGT is a for profit business and an online golf game sure isn't one of life's necessities.

     

     

  • jayw4862
    3,364 Posts
    Thu, Oct 30 2014 10:49 AM

    dedBuNNy:

    Because you and everyone like you, that includes me, as well as the other 98.98% of the players here are dimwitted friggin' idiots, degenerates, lazy, weak-willed junkies who don't have the presence of mind or capacity to organize into something resembling even the slightest bit like a cohesive unified group to say - ..i., Enough !! Let's see how you like us when we don't play for a month bitches! 

    When all the crakheads decide, "Hey, this sh*t's not really very good for us you know?", and they quit and become stock brokers and librarians, or run for office somewhere,  what do you think the dealers are gonna?

    Sayin'....

    LMAO!!!! Now...tell us how you REALLY feel ;-)

     

  • dedBuNNy
    1,919 Posts
    Thu, Oct 30 2014 11:03 AM

    jayw4862:

    dedBuNNy:

    Because you and everyone like you, that includes me, as well as the other 98.98% of the players here are dimwitted friggin' idiots, degenerates, lazy, weak-willed junkies who don't have the presence of mind or capacity to organize into something resembling even the slightest bit like a cohesive unified group to say - ..i., Enough !! Let's see how you like us when we don't play for a month bitches! 

    When all the crakheads decide, "Hey, this sh*t's not really very good for us you know?", and they quit and become stock brokers and librarians, or run for office somewhere,  what do you think the dealers are gonna?

    Sayin'....

    LMAO!!!! Now...tell us how you REALLY feel ;-)

     

    IKR?! 

     

     

  • fatdan
    3,379 Posts
    Thu, Oct 30 2014 11:45 AM

    dedBuNNy:

    Because you and everyone like you, that includes me, as well as the other 98.98% of the players here are dimwitted friggin' idiots, degenerates, lazy, weak-willed junkies who don't have the presence of mind or capacity to organize into something resembling even the slightest bit like a cohesive unified group

    When all the crakheads decide, "Hey, this sh*t's not really very good for us you know?", and they quit and become stock brokers and librarians, or run for office somewhere,  what do you think the dealers are gonna?

    I think Rob Ford was a politician who became a crackhead, not vice versa , but do Canadian crackheads really become the librarian, or stock brokers? LOL

    It is good to know I'm part of a 1.02% minority though considering the allegations! {rolling eyes}

    I'll tell ya this, when my self worth is so low I feel the need to become involved in a action to take down an online game because they cheated me out of fake money, I hope I pass on peacefully in my sleep, I have nothing else to do here....LMAO

  • alanti
    10,564 Posts
    Thu, Oct 30 2014 12:53 PM

    ApexPC:
    Actually, I seem to recall reading that WGT lowered - by 1/2 - the greens fees for the 2 TruGolf courses a couple/some years back, and, we are often given a chance to play the TruGolf courses for free.

    The prices were lowered presumably due to a lack of demand. The Price Demand Curve could be applied in this case - reduce the price, consumption increases.

    And unlike a real golf course, once the course is released, there is very little upkeep - how often do you see the ground staff working furiously to repair divots, coring greens, cutting fairways etc.? Once it is developed, the "millions of rounds played" become sheer profit - by virtue of the majority of those player paying for balls. I wont even mention the fact the advertising probably covers all of the development costs - or should if the WGT marketing staff have half a brain.

    We do have a choice of paying for equipment, or playing for free, but we do not get a choice of tiering up, where the game becomes to hard to play and enjoy as a 230 yard drive is akin to a 90 year old teeing off.

    Yes WGT is a business, and as such is designed to make profits, but there is one unique aspect of WGT - it is effectively a monopoly. Therefore there is no market mechanism that drives prices, and as Dedbunny says, if players boycotted the site, then that price demand curve comes into play.

    WGT is a great game, great courses but the apparent greed and seemingly total lack of respect for its customers will drive players away in droves id something viable did come along. As Jim said - it appears they will not care as the cash is already in the bank.

    I play less these days, some days I will not play and I know of many who never play now, or if they do, the bugs that never get fixed just drive them away again. If it was not in my CC, I would simply walk away - a great bunch of guys - and that is why WGT is partially successful.

    But then the CC's get shafted as well. New implementations poorly thought through was just another example of not actually looking long term, but looking at avenues to increase cash flow.

    I suppose the advantage of being a monopoly, you charge what you want, offer no customer service, shoddy programming and do not fix issues unless it concerns revenue and stick your finger up at the customer.

    This latest incident is proof, a mistake costing $$, you fix immediately - other problems have existed for years and nothing happens.

    In hindsight, the dedbunny is right, we must be fricken stupid.

     

     

  • dedBuNNy
    1,919 Posts
    Thu, Oct 30 2014 2:58 PM

    ...because they cheated me out of fake money

    I'm sorry, I'm missing something in that..

    What is 'fake' about Paypal transactions, Zong transactions, CC transactions or anything else where you're transferring real world monies into WGT credits? 

    Do you use Monopoly money or the school money they use to teach 5th graders? If you are, please share and I'll stop draining my fu*ckin' Paypal account to buy clubs n balls!! 

    hahahaha.. Fake money... wtf indeed man.... lol

     

  • Fraenkel
    2,252 Posts
    Fri, Oct 31 2014 12:08 AM

    stevereilly:

    I love this site, the courses are amazing.    There are so many amazing, friendly members of the WGT community.

    Just one bug bear though.......Why is it so necessary for WGT to squeeze every last credit out of the loyal players.      They really could have a great thing here,    however it seems as though WGT are trying really hard to alienate their customers.

    I don't know,  but talk of alienation,   maybe Yancy has the answers ?

    Respect for you Steve.

    Respect for you just because I feel the same way you do and for sure you will do but to let all the community understand what you are try to share ( someone pretends not to understand ) you should use known terms and foster the crowd, such as "cheaters", "multi-accounters", "VEM" or the newest "not verified account".

    My mind went so far as to think conditions of misleading and assumptions where there are few people that I trust and many of those that doubt, but I do not blame anyone rather I still to believe that anything could be change.

    At the moment it is disillusioned and frustrating.

    There are two top players categories, those verified but not winning and non-winning checked out of proportion except a few cases, it is a fact. They can answer you in any way, justify and lead you in the wrong but there will always be someone who thinks like you. In this WGT is does nothing, zero, not even a word.

    Keep play and enjoy ev'ry game

    David.

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