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CC vs CC Solution, Pt. 2

• ArgyleScott 1,267 Posts

  Fri, Nov 7 2014 10:36 AM

  ArgyleScott @11-07-2014 7:43 AM

  Play as often as you like but only best score will count.

  The number of competitors counted equal to the least number of players from either club. 

  (A club had 12 members entered and the other 30, take only the top 12 of the 30.)

  Comments please.

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  YankeeJim @11-07-2014 7:59 AM

  Dang, Scott, I was trying to figure out how to say that. If they did that then there wouldn't be any restriction on who plays who. The 50 member club could compete against the 250 member club quite nicely. I wouldn't take the top 12 of that 30, just the first 12 to play.

  Shoe has already 'fessed up that this isn't a cash grab so if that's true then the money end of it doesn't come into play.

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  ArgyleScott @11-07-2014 9:11 AM

  What about matching tiers? If there is one Pro from one side, only one Pro from the other side. 

  I bring this up because the premium placed on good shots by the Stableford system and the fact I saw one of the smaller clubs that had 38 Legends. Without matching tier to tier, they would have a great advantage.

• bluzgolf 1,077 Posts

  Fri, Nov 7 2014 10:43 AM

  Looks good, and wgt would still get their pockets filled as it's play as often as you like.  It would make it a true CC clash, rather than just a money grab, reward for most play.

• DonCaron 5,502 Posts

  Fri, Nov 7 2014 10:51 AM

  I really like Your idea. Great thread, it would even the playing field. The pass is to expensive to begin with. Wgt gets a lot out of selling virtual golf balls, no need for expensive passes

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Fri, Nov 7 2014 11:13 AM

  I wouldn't consider the tiers. This is a club thing and if the tees are set up accordingly it shouldn't make a difference. The key is a like number of players facing off instead of a mob against a few.

• genegold2 1,302 Posts

  Fri, Nov 7 2014 12:46 PM

  Using the scoring system in place, how is a lower level tier going to compete with higher tiers. The tees do not make a level playing field in any way. Show me a pro on any course that will hit close to a legend in birds, eagles on any given day?  If supper pass was used as only way to play a clash game and given by owner to individuals to use, then each club would have same entries, if each club got same number of passes. Of course each club would enter their best players. Very small clubs still might have a problem coming up with Tour Legends to meet the number. This would be nothing but top level tiers and not a reflection of a Country Club. NO answers any way you look at it. Wgt will continue doing what it thinks best anyway, so all these suggestions are worthless.

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Fri, Nov 7 2014 12:58 PM

  genegold2:

  how is a lower level tier going to compete with higher tiers.

  It's not about individuals, it's about Country Clubs. 

• MBaggese 15,367 Posts

  Fri, Nov 7 2014 6:59 PM

  Makes no difference one way or another...let me show you why...

   

  Soo..

   

  Club A with 10 members plays club B with a 100 memembers...

   

  Say 10 scores count....

   

  Cool!!...Club A has a chance to beat Club B...

   

  Follow me?

   

  Now...Club C with 250 members plays club D with 250 member an 200 begin posting scores.

   

  In effect Club A can only beat/win against Club B...but NEVER win the whole shabang.

   

  The ONLY way to equal;ze this is state that "XX best posting scores count"

• ISH47 1,963 Posts

  Fri, Nov 7 2014 7:14 PM

  MBaggese:

  The ONLY way to equal;ze this is state that "XX best posting scores count"

  True

• DaddysKat 3,554 Posts

  Fri, Nov 7 2014 8:46 PM

  Guys ... as long as the scores are not adjusted by some form of a handicap, there will never be an equal chance for all CC's to compete.

  Lets say you have Gary's new CC ... nearly 100 members but mostly Masters and under.  He gets put against YJ, Al and Bagg's CC, which has mostly tour legends and legends. 

  Using top 10 scores, Gary's CC doesn't stand a chance.

  Now if WGT would get a handicapping system together and use the top 10 "net" scores, every club would have a chance to win.  But that's probably never going to happen, so the inequality will simply continue.

  Ya'all can discuss a solution until the the 2nd coming, but without some form of handicapping system, it's never going to be fair!

• CanineSupervisor 1,882 Posts

  Fri, Nov 7 2014 9:00 PM

  DaddysKat:

  Guys ... as long as the scores are not adjusted by some form of a handicap, there will never be an equal chance for all CC's to compete.

  Lets say you have Gary's new CC ... nearly 100 members but mostly Masters and under.  He gets put against YJ, Al and Bagg's CC, which has mostly tour legends and legends. 

  Using top 10 scores, Gary's CC doesn't stand a chance.

  Now if WGT would get a handicapping system together and use the top 10 "net" scores, every club would have a chance to win.  But that's probably never going to happen, so the inequality will simply continue.

  Ya'all can discuss a solution until the the 2nd coming, but without some form of handicapping system, it's never going to be fair!

  Exactly, Kat.

  Unfortunately, WGT is not going to implement a handicapping system. 

  There are (roughly) 40,000 CC's in WGT, some with only a few players.

  To anyone that thinks that WGT Sports will listen to player suggestions needs to think again...maybe even twice. If that doesn't work, think again.

  This isn't a democracy where we have voting or rights: we gave those up when we chose to make an account. Doubt that? Reread the T&C's.

  The bottom line here is: WGT's bottom line. Black is good:red, not so good.