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What WGT doesn't want us to know

• oneputtdavid 1,337 Posts

  Fri, Dec 3 2010 12:56 PM

  andyson:

  f by rules & regulations you mean the Terms and Conditions the you'll find it at the very bottom of this page.

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  TY again...."no doubt about it..I need to get a new pair of glasses"

   

• swannyxx 303 Posts

  Fri, Dec 3 2010 4:02 PM

  TDHarvey:

  Ive said it before I really think the meter stops, sputters are a built in feature. Why else would they have an award for saving par after a drive of less than a hundred yards? Who would do that on purpose? 

  LOL sound's like a scramble tourney sponsored by bar....; shortest drive win a prize...sorry guy's not trying to make a joke of your thread i must say it make's for some very interesting reading..:)

   

• chrisironsbones 3,524 Posts

  Sat, Dec 4 2010 3:51 AM

  Angeltotti20:

  Lol, who's back for more? The guy who plays STA 18 RG only. Paranoia!

  You should start practicing BP, which is where the first round of WMPC will be played... You're paired with Woodsy747.

  Jake: I understand you, i also have to WD from many tournaments due to meter spikes which cause lost balls which cause bogeys or worse. VEM has always been there and we have always been able to deal with it. People like Chris who think WGT is pursuing them so they can't shoot low scores is what i can't tolerate.

  Because Jake is one of the better players and a top earner,and although he's said something similar to what i've said before in previous posts, but you'll stick your toungue up his ass because he's one of the "elite", but me a mere mortal you attack constantly because i don't consistantly shoot low scores.

   

  This is because i only have time for a round a day, i HAVE a life, a wife and kids so although i'd love to be on here all day like you angel i can't. But if i only had a sad existance and nothing else to do with myself and be playing this all day like yourself i would be shooting low all the time, but considering i don't play as often, i'm happy with the scores i post like getting -12 (after a double bogey on 17) in lpga qualifier to come 60th and qualifying. I know it wasn't as good as your score you were leading untill Avatar Lee knocked you off your perch(he he), So because i only play a round a day at the moment i play at my favourite course, St Andrews, but when i DO have time i enter others like kiwah(came 2nd) and when i enter Bethpage i never LOOSE money so i'm doing o.k. 

  Just keep your opinions to yourself in future (unless they're constructive) because you seem to have a problem with me (maybe because i'm not as good a player as you) so you feel you have the right to keep putting people down. YOU brought the fact up regarding Paranoia thinking WGT is against me if i don't shoot low, all i brought up is the inconsistancies, and the difficulties in scoring low BECAUSE of the inconsistancies.

  So tro nesa cau dy geg neu nai stwffio dy ben i fyny dy din y diawl hull . angel pen coc

• mohuyu 891 Posts

  Sat, Dec 4 2010 5:10 AM

  Meter fuks up a load of times ... cost me 4 strokes and my money and what do wgt give me a tin choke relief award ... nice I couldn't be happier

• Angeltotti20 296 Posts

  Sat, Dec 4 2010 5:50 AM

  If you were not losing time in forums, you woud have enough time to play 2 rounds a day ;)

  You have played a total of 144 RR (wow!), around 100 at STA probably. Jake has over 3000 RR, and has been here longer than me. That's why i do respect his opinion, though i might disagree. He never said anything about Rg's playing different, or clubs going 40 y more than they should. His complaints are about meter freezes and deviations, something we all have to deal with. Is his meter worse? Is VEM affecting him more than others players? Well, he's shooting as low as any top player in here. Maybe, if he made a video while playing a round we would know.... :P

  You said these inconsistancies you're talking about seem to appear when you're scoring low and, in my opininon, that's the true definition of a paranoid. What happened on 17 kia? Was it your finger, your head, or some WGT employee pressing the "right deviation button" or maybe the "meter freeze button".

  Btw, i  said every time i had been asked that i was completely sure somebody (ALee, BB, Price, Jake....) would shoot, at least, 54 on LPGA. I don't mind being beaten by one of these names, becuase they're the best of the best and, also,  because i cannot win any real prizes since, as you can see, i'm living in Spain.

  chrisironsbones:

  So tro nesa cau dy geg neu nai stwffio dy ben i fyny dy din y diawl hull . angel pen coc

  i'm sorry to say i don't speak Klingon yet.

   

• Richard4168 4,309 Posts

  Sat, Dec 4 2010 6:34 AM

   

  I'm not saying this is the sole problem for your meter problems Jake, but I believe it's something some should take into consideration.

  People that play fast may encounter meter stutter within the first 5 seconds of a swing. We've heard it said before to hold the meter at the top of the meter bar, there's a reason the meter is smooth after the pause. 

  Watch in the lower left corner after the next hole location loads, you'll notice the name of the club changes, this will cause a meter stutter 98% of the time during ones swing, especially the fast player. The next place a meter stutter occurs is on the green. Again, the fast player will have a meter stutter 98% of the time here. Watch the upper-right corner where the meter speed banner drops down, a meter stutter will occur almost every-time for the fast player taking a swing during the drop down action. 

  The game has a slow reaction to every action we give it. Let the game settle down and acknowledge the command before taking a swing. Meter stutter could be less active by doing so. 

   

   

• jakestanfill7 949 Posts

  Sat, Dec 4 2010 11:42 AM

  You may be on to something Richard as I am one of the fastest players on the site I believe.  Even playing fast, I still wiggle the "swing" bar over the meter until it's smooth and then pause at top of swing for about 2 secs. 

  I can usually aim and start the swing within 10 seconds and generally pull the trigger within 15 secs.  I might try letting the clock run a bit, but many times I keep the CPU monitor gadget open and let it settle down before I start the swing.  Sometimes I don't open the gadget, but there seems to be little rhyme of reason for the sudden spikes.  It will be fine for one round then the next it's all over the place.  I almost always close the browser and try all the little tricks of the trade.

  New Windows discs are on the way.  Reformatting and stripping the computer down to bare bones next week so hopefully I see some improvement.  Will keep you posted. 

  I still contend that something has happened on WGT's end since the Sept 1 update.  Even friends who never had issues are now telling me that they battle it as well.  Still a select few out there that don't have issues, but that number is miniscule compared to those who do have to fight it.

  Part of the problem is playing on a laptop I know and I can live with 1 or 2 issues per nine holes.  9-10 issues per nine puts me through the roof though and I have rounds like that about 5 in 10.  Those 1-2 rounds that are close to perfect I can put up numbers with the best of them but sure do wish I could get those ones more frequently.

  Happy golfing everybody and may your meter's be smooth as silk!

• VanHalenLover 1,422 Posts

  Sat, Dec 4 2010 12:36 PM

  jakestanfill7:

  New Windows discs are on the way.  Reformatting and stripping the computer down to bare bones next week so hopefully I see some improvement.  Will keep you posted. 

  Jake,

  I used to have great results with this on an older system that I was running. Actually had 2 instances of Win XP installed in dual-boot fashion. Regular installation held everything I needed daily, and the 2nd installation held only what I needed for wgt, and nothing else.

  It worked great.

  On my newer system, I am running folding at home via Stanford University, and have my CPU and mt GPU pegged at 100% 24/7, and can play most times with no meter stutter at all. That was, until the last couple of weeks. You read right, 100% on my GPU and CPU with very little meter stutter, save for those rounds where my score seems to be getting a bit too 'under par-ish'. Not a tinfoil hat reaction at all, but a witenessing of events and a pattern. And no, I don't think there is someone sitting as WGT HQ with a magic button, I am convinced it is programmed. Call it VEM if you will, or call it programming a window of high and low scores before the round, but I believe it is there.

  And even with the events of the last couple weeks, I still see a lot less meter stutter than I did on my old dual boot system, so I am very sure that hardware plays a big part of this. Especially a GPU that can handle the newest Java and associated drivers. Still though, something has changed over the last 2-3 weeks.

• DavyJones1980 43 Posts

  Sat, Dec 4 2010 1:28 PM

  VanHalenLover:

  Still though, something has changed over the last 2-3 weeks.

  And it's not just "virtual" (our imaginations) either!

  We all know that WGT is run with "Beta Testing" emphases on testing. We all agreed and acknowledged this when we applied and were accepted for membership.

  You are aware that WGT has the exclusive right to change, modify, reconstruct, discontinue, etc etc etc any and/or all aspects of this program at their discretion?

  Now heres the kicker, they are not liable,obligated nor required to disclose any of the above mentioned modifications or changes to the "general" membership.

  I am totally convinced unless you are using a "1965 IBM" receiver, 99% of all inconsistencies we've all experienced recently comes directly from the programmer. IMO

  We can tweak our PC's add this or that, do this do that... till the cows come home, but then or when the server "tweaks" THEIR program its all back to square one. IMO 

   

   

   

• andyson 6,415 Posts

  Sat, Dec 4 2010 1:47 PM

  jakestanfill7:

  I can usually aim and start the swing within 10 seconds and generally pull the trigger within 15 secs.  I might try letting the clock run a bit, but many times I keep the CPU monitor gadget open and let it settle down before I start the swing.  Sometimes I don't open the gadget, but there seems to be little rhyme of reason for the sudden spikes. 

  Playing more slowly will definitely help.  And to add to what Richard4186 already said, it takes the game 3-6 seconds to settle down after every view change.  That includes the new 2nd shot screen or the switch to the putting surface, also the zoom to move the aimer and switch back to non-zoom or using one of the alternate cameras.

  Try pausing 4 to 5 seconds in the backswing vs. the 1 to 2 seconds.  It allows Flash to complete whatever work it started before you started your backswing.

  I also get a condition I call "Weird CPU" where the task manager's CPU meter looks like the FireFox browser and Flash plug-in are having a nervous breakdown when nothing is going on.  Seems to occur after I've played a game or two then go to the forums in a separate window.  After a while I see the meter looking like this....

  

  When it normally  looks like this below after I cleared the browser cache and only have the game client window open on the main menu.

  

  I just clear the browser cache and close firefox.  Re-open FF, set affinity and its back to normal.  Then I play.  I haven't figured out why it goes Weird yet but it looks like some task is recurrent in Flash burning up real time in the process.

  What browser are you using Jake?