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off ding putting method

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Tue, Sep 29 2015 8:53 AM

  WoodenHands:

  To answer the original question, though not a great player, I only putt using the miss ding method, although i do move the aim for a bigger breaking putt.

  Tried the other way too but found I'm more clueless than I am presently.

  Interesting.

  Look you are really actually quite good.

  Just to clarify may I use an example.

  Say 14 feet out, and a 6 inch swing on champ 13.  Would you do all that with misding or would you also move the aimer.  I realise you have the putter for the misding if you want, but just wondered as to definitions a bit if that make ssense.

  I see people asking about missing, yet giving no real definition of exactly what they mean by that and no reference to why they think the attributes of their putter could possibly cope with never moving the aimer.  "You is different" to that though, and it would be helpful to me to hear your thoughts (I try and be as objective as I can be in the FAQs on my CCs website).

  Cheers

• WoodenHands 526 Posts

  Tue, Sep 29 2015 9:08 AM

  Jimbog1964:

  WoodenHands:

  To answer the original question, though not a great player, I only putt using the miss ding method, although i do move the aim for a bigger breaking putt.

  Tried the other way too but found I'm more clueless than I am presently.

  Interesting.

  Look you are really actually quite good.

  Just to clarify may I use an example.

  Say 14 feet out, and a 6 inch swing on champ 13.  Would you do all that with misding or would you also move the aimer.  I realise you have the putter for the misding if you want, but just wondered as to definitions a bit if that make ssense.

  I see people asking about missing, yet giving no real definition of exactly what they mean by that and no reference to why they think the attributes of their putter could possibly cope with never moving the aimer.  "You is different" to that though, and it would be helpful to me to hear your thoughts (I try and be as objective as I can be in the FAQs on my CCs website).

  Cheers

  Hey Jim, I wouldn't move the aimer for that. The only time I move the aimer is if the break is too severe that missing the ding by  the maximum is still not enough. It's by no means a scientific method, pretty much do it by feel (guesswork) but it's still better for me than trying to putt 'properly'

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Tue, Sep 29 2015 9:17 AM

  WoodenHands:

  Hey Jim, I wouldn't move the aimer for that. The only time I move the aimer is if the break is too severe that missing the ding by  the maximum is still not enough. It's by no means a scientific method, pretty much do it by feel (guesswork) but it's still better for me than trying to putt 'properly'

  Hmmm...Thanks for that.  I will remark some use it better than I supposed possible, but will note that person had the Rossa.  Cheers

• WoodenHands 526 Posts

  Tue, Sep 29 2015 9:20 AM

  Jimbog1964:

  WoodenHands:

  Hey Jim, I wouldn't move the aimer for that. The only time I move the aimer is if the break is too severe that missing the ding by  the maximum is still not enough. It's by no means a scientific method, pretty much do it by feel (guesswork) but it's still better for me than trying to putt 'properly'

  Hmmm...Thanks for that.  I will remark some use it better than I supposed possible, but will note that person had the Rossa.  Cheers

  Sorry I can't be of more help, or at least more specific.

  As I say, it's more of a feel thing, my stats have slowly improved over time as I get the hang of guessing the breaks, it's as much about perseverance and luck as anything else. 

   

• hatcojack 410 Posts

  Wed, Sep 30 2015 5:21 AM

  alcaucin: i asked for opinions of GREAT players! so just why did YOU respond??

• MainzMan 9,591 Posts

  Wed, Sep 30 2015 8:53 AM

  hatcojack:

  alcaucin: i asked for opinions of GREAT players! so just why did YOU respond??

  True, this is what you asked:

  hatcojack:

  curious how many great players( say, mid 50's avg) use the off ding putting method?

  However, it would be a big mistake to assume a mid 50 average makes someone a great player.  They could be a red tee pitch and putter or they may quit any round if they fail to birdie the first 4 holes.  There are also legends and tour legends out there who played one round after reaching the new tier and never played a ranked round again.  And that one round was a good one of course.

  And of course, let's not forget good old saturation.  Eventually everyone will have a mid 50 average or better.

  I see your opinion of Andy's ability has more to do with personal feelings than how well he can actually play the game though, which is a shame.  He really is a great player.

• andyson 6,415 Posts

  Wed, Sep 30 2015 12:10 PM

  MainzMan:

  I see your opinion of Andy's ability has more to do with personal feelings than how well he can actually play the game though, which is a shame.  He really is a great player.

  MM, you must be referring to the other Andy not me.  Word is he, the other Andy, gets help playing the game from someone with cat like reflexes!  ;-)

  

• lonniescott711 4,207 Posts

  Wed, Sep 30 2015 3:23 PM

  WoodenHands:

  Jimbog1964:

  WoodenHands:

  To answer the original question, though not a great player, I only putt using the miss ding method, although i do move the aim for a bigger breaking putt.

  Tried the other way too but found I'm more clueless than I am presently.

  Interesting.

  Look you are really actually quite good.

  Just to clarify may I use an example.

  Say 14 feet out, and a 6 inch swing on champ 13.  Would you do all that with misding or would you also move the aimer.  I realise you have the putter for the misding if you want, but just wondered as to definitions a bit if that make ssense.

  I see people asking about missing, yet giving no real definition of exactly what they mean by that and no reference to why they think the attributes of their putter could possibly cope with never moving the aimer.  "You is different" to that though, and it would be helpful to me to hear your thoughts (I try and be as objective as I can be in the FAQs on my CCs website).

  Cheers

   

  Hey Jim, I wouldn't move the aimer for that. The only time I move the aimer is if the break is too severe that missing the ding by  the maximum is still not enough. It's by no means a scientific method, pretty much do it by feel (guesswork) but it's still better for me than trying to putt 'properly'

  +1 Missing the ding when putting to me is the truer form of putting . To me its like real putting . On severe breaks moving the marker is done only to help the putter hold its line . Also when playing on sloped greens like Congo , Oakmont or Merion moving the marker may be needed when putting on the side of the slope .

  But regardless of whether I move the marker or not I still putt by missing the ding . If the break is left to right I click early or before the ding . If right to left then I click late .It takes practice to learn this but it does work very well .

  The 55+ Dayton Rossa is a great putter to start learning with . Also the 70+ and 96+ Versa putters are both great putters for miss ding putting as well .

   

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Wed, Sep 30 2015 8:03 PM

  Can't agree with you there Lonnie as far as misding to RL.  

  IRL my putter (on a good day) has one very set back and forth motion.  It also has a certain draw back for different lengths.  Here I use putter pal for that draw back as I don't notch back IRL (avatar moves here).  Unlike IRL I will set to slightly misding oftentimes here after mostly aiming with the marker.

  I would say to anyone who wants to test a putter to get on course and see your roll out distances over say a 20 putt distance with different meter depths.  I think you will find that if doing that with a Nike and meter set deep you will see a big grouping even dinged.  Do it with a Versa and that grouping gets tighter, but both will be better with a shallow meter.  Now build ONLY using misding for that I think you will see less distance control (so bigger groupings).  

  Balance, precision and forgiveness all come out to play when putting.  Anyway each to their own, and putting is personal I agree.  More than anything it's about knowing your own putter v well, and think we would all agree on that.

• 559 Posts

  Thu, Oct 1 2015 10:43 AM

  I always move the aim marker.