Forums

Help › Forums

WGT Putting ???

rated by 0 users
Tue, Nov 10 2015 8:15 PM (34 replies)
  • xxxhogheadxxx
    949 Posts
    Mon, Nov 9 2015 8:13 PM

     

    Stryder1261   ---    WGT is not out to get you.  Hang in there and pay attention to the advice you are receiving.  

    I'd add to what jayw4862 wrote above...   drag your aim from the hole to your ball on the green.  Often you will see elevation changes that will affect your putt.  Think where your ball will travel on the path to the hole.   And always drag behind the hole to find that hidden 1 foot of rise that is often there.(heck, I always add a foot just to be sure i'm not short)

    Putting on here is very difficult.   But it can be mastered with practice.  Not saying you will make them all, but you can get very close to that.

    Best of luck

  • dedBuNNy
    1,919 Posts
    Mon, Nov 9 2015 9:39 PM

    I love it when people come on here and lambaste someone because of their perceived lack of skill in playing this game.

    You do realize pinheads that players do not have the same game environments as each other right? You get that don't you? 

    So to come on and say, "Well I hit my shot at 90% with 1/2 bs and it goes 123.4 yards so you must be a moron who doesn't know how to map his clubs n balls or try choosing the right scale next time" is kinda fu*kin' idiotic and makes you look like a moron.

    And the whole notion that everyone who has a ball run 12ft by the hole has used the wrong scale is nonsense, sorry but it happens to way too many players who know to check the scale before hitting the ball.

     

    WGT should sell Pom Poms in the Pro Shop for the Squad.....

     

  • fatdan
    3,379 Posts
    Mon, Nov 9 2015 10:56 PM

    JFidanza:

    fatdan:

    a simple distance +/- elevation + 2ft x .65/.7/.75/.8 depending on the green speed works perfectly every time...

    Champ .65 slight d'hill - level....  .7 uphill

    Tourney 12...  .7 slight d'hill.......  .75 level to uphill

    w/ small adjustments depending on course, depending on hole, level changes behind hole, variations on path of ball, amount of break, speed of break, do I want to take some of the break out of the put, do I want to add a cup(hit into break), blah blah blah....

    I never hit a putt to just "barely" make it to the hole, it leaves the door open for trouble....

    anyway...24+2=26 X .75 = 19.5

    What distance does that travel? 24' 5"....24 to the hole, 5 inches to the bottom of the cup LOL

     

  • courteneyfish
    15,796 Posts
    Mon, Nov 9 2015 11:41 PM

    My method is really easy. You look at the putt, decide to aim about THERE and hit it THAT hard. This is a game not a maths lesson. Using calculators is cheating.

  • Jimbog1964
    8,378 Posts
    Tue, Nov 10 2015 12:41 AM

    JFidanza:

    Practice mode below:

    Trying to not get too picky but is that putt really dead flat.  Not been to check but if anything that roll is markedly down at the start I thought.  You also never (that I saw) moved the aim marker past the hole to check the real distance (an inch move and it can change a foot for what is given).  IMO it's also a good idea to move the aim marker from well before the avatar to well past the hole, and all in between to really see what is going on.  All these factors on a slick green, such as stimp 12, can really make differences.  

    Plain common sense with inertia is also a good start as slicker  = less friction, such as stimp 12, and the putt rolls for longer once it gets starts.  E.G. hit a 100% putt 75ft and it will likely sail well past, but hit a 20 putt at 15 feet and it will finish about 20'...........Emphasise on on about as there are groupings, which is why we pay for balance.  

    never up never in is also worth remembering, and so finish 2 or even 3 feet past there at least gives it a look.

    Now course to course can vary a fraction, but putting is pretty consistent within that I find.  Calc wise for stimp 12 I use a straight up 75%, and use simply feel after that with all the above in mind.  Now not saying that's necessarily the v best way at all, but my ADP puts me in with a shout, and I have a long track record of not bothering to drill down more:)

    Now with the above in mind:

    Stryder1261:
    13 ft 0 up/down hit 100% on 10 foot scale and the putt came up short ??? WTH !!!

    With the L77 Nike, but be similar for any putter here, that is entirely the expected outcome.  Stimp 13, especially if arrow pointing up, I would still not be complaining about short.

    Stryder1261:
     a 24 footer on Tounament green 0 up or down, used a 20 foot scale and hit 90 % (18 ft) and the ball went 11 ft ???

    Thought I caught them once when I had a video going but sure enough wrong scale, and so only user error.  I can only go by what I see, and in 4000++ RRs putting just remains as consistent as you would expect.

    Basic calcs will get you close but Putting is not easy and there is no substitute for practice at a given course, and especially at tricky holes when chasing fine line top scores.  Swapping putters often is also a bad idea as it takes time to learn every nuance of YOUR putter.  Now I am remarkedly bad at bothering with any notes or precise honing, but the more I refamiliarise myself with a course the more consistent I get as well...

    What I see in an area where hard work does pay off - IMO.

     

     

     

  • alanti
    10,564 Posts
    Tue, Nov 10 2015 12:44 AM

    courteneyfish:
    Using calculators is cheating.

    That is a bit harsh C. After all the game is based on algorithms so I can understand players who do.

    But for me it would kill the enjoyment....I play by feel and some days it works, others I look like a beginner. 

    If I took notes religiously, calculated every shot and took my time, I would improve markedly, but then again I would find the enjoyment levels at close to zero.

    I am happy having one good round every so often.......

  • patrickmar
    245 Posts
    Tue, Nov 10 2015 12:49 AM

    Stryder1261:
    a 24 footer on Tournament green 0 up or down, used a 20 foot scale and hit 90 % (18 ft)

    a 24 ft putt flat surface on tournament  greens is 21.6 ft also depends on course.  i use .9 x ft then up or down. 

  • Jimbog1964
    8,378 Posts
    Tue, Nov 10 2015 12:57 AM

    alanti:

    courteneyfish:
    Using calculators is cheating.

    That is a bit harsh C. After all the game is based on algorithms so I can understand players who do.

    But for me it would kill the enjoyment....I play by feel and some days it works, others I look like a beginner. 

     

    I would go as far as to say it's utterly nonsense.  IRL I look at a putt and have a good idea of the distance - v good idea as best I can.  I know my draw back for 5', 10' etc or am I just trying to get close from farther out as hooked another (:............Here my draw back distance is putter pal.  Some like counting avatar moves but I don't notch back IRL so don't do it here...........Personally I (laziness as much as anything) never looked at the videos some use or count dots and only have feel really after v basic distance, but each to their own.  IRL we get 3D remember.

  • fatdan
    3,379 Posts
    Tue, Nov 10 2015 2:09 AM

    courteneyfish:

    My method is really easy. You look at the putt, decide to aim about THERE and hit it THAT hard. This is a game not a maths lesson. Using calculators is cheating.

    Another profound statement from ms. fish....your ASS Umption is I use a calc...is going to school learning math also cheating to you?

    Personally I think anyone who doesn't use any and every available technology to excel at anything they do is cheating ones self ....another possibility is your lazy!

    I would hire the women with the chainsaw over the guy with the axe to clear my property?

     

RSS