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Tough-It-Out VT January event: Whistler

• Corwyn 2,410 Posts

  Thu, Jan 7 2016 12:04 PM

  Heads up... the final event in the (inaugural?) Tough-It-Out parallel Virtual Tour starts tomorrow, Friday 1/8! 

  Originally, we had hoped to close the 2015 year in December with Pebble Beach, but we're going to wait for this as a full 18 whenever it comes...

  ... so, then we added Cabo instead for December, with the plan to round out the "wrap-around" season with Whistler in January. There were then doubts about whether or not Whistler would be available, but I'm delighted to say that Shoe seems to have been able to pull some strings and we can hold this special finale to the Tough-It-Out Tour. 

  Thank you, Shoe!

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  PLEASE NOTE: to be eligible for Prizes, there are now NEW Club Proof Requirements (which we started in August). To win a Leaderboard (top 5) or Stats Prize, you must show proof of clubs used in one of the following 3 ways:

  1) Video Proof (see this post for details and example);

  2) Greenshot with Club Bag Hover (with 3H or 3W in avatar's hand, and the other one, 3W or 3H, hovered over in the bag, with the fully visible Bag providing evidence of SW and LW);    (see this post for details and example)

  3) 4 Greenshots showing 3W, 3H, SW & LW   (see this post for details and example)

  Please read the details below BEFORE playing your round.

  *** To be in the running for any prizes, you must take and post either a VIDEO record or SCREEN SHOTS with PROOF OF CLUBS used, along with both f9 & b9 CARDS and all the STATS!!!!!  ***

  
  

   

  TOURNEY DATES: R1 runs Fri 1/8 to Thu 1/14; R2 runs Fri 1/15-Thu 1/21

   

  *** LEADERBOARD & ENTRY LINK is here ***  (opens Fri 1/8)

  (and tourney will also be listed in the official WGT tourney list in the Game Client)

   

  Here are the tournament dates and conditions ... not that anyone can practice as this tourney itself is the only way to play the TruGolf courses with UEL :(

  R1 :: Fri 1/8 to Thu 1/14

  18 holes; Whistler; Gold (Hard) [6249 yards], Heavy wind, Tourney11 greens, Default pins, Uneven Lies, equipment restricted to Starter Clubs and Ball

  R2 ::  R2 runs Fri 1/15-Thu 1/21

  18 holes; Whistler; Black (Champ) [6640 yards], Mod wind, Fast9 greens, Default pins, Uneven Lies, equipment restricted to Starter Clubs and Ball

   

  Please do remember to take care equipping your bag properly ahead of play (i.e. before clicking on the link to enter):

  This tournament is only to be played with the full Starter Club set:

  Starter Driver,

  Starter 3W,

  Starter 3H,

  Starter Sand Wedge,

  Starter Lob Wedge,

  Starter Iron Set,

  Starter Putter,

  and Starter Ball.

• Corwyn 2,410 Posts

  Thu, Jan 7 2016 12:05 PM

  <reserved for TIO History>

  INTRODUCTION & HISTORY:

  After the success of the holiday special at the beginning of 2015, A Bandon Hope, and the eleven follow-up tourneys @ RSG in Feb, Kiawah in March, Bethpage in April, Congressional in May, Pinehurst in June, St Andrews and Oakmont in August, Chambers Bay in September, Merion and Olympic in November, and Cabo in December, the Tough-It-Out VT bandwagon moves on to Whistler for January. 

  Prior 2015 events: 

  Jan: A Bandon Hope  (LB)

  Feb: Tough-It-Out VT Feb event: Royal St. George's  (LB)

  Mar: Tough-It-Out VT Mar event: Kiawah Island  (LB)

  Apr: Tough-It-Out VT Apr event: Bethpage Black  (LB)

  May: Tough-It-Out VT May event: Congressional  (LB)

  Jun: Tough-It-Out VT May event: Pinehurst #2  (LB) (shown in WGT tourney list)

  Aug: Tough-It-Out VT catch-up July event: St Andrews (LB)  (shown in WGT tourney list)

  Aug: Tough-It-Out VT August event: Oakmont  (LB)  (shown in WGT tourney list)

  Sep: Tough-It-Out VT Sept event: Chambers Bay (LB)  (shown in WGT tourney list)

  Nov: Tough-It-Out VT catch-up Oct event: Merion  (LB)  (shown in WGT tourney list)

  Nov: Tough-It-Out VT Nov event: Olympic (LB)  (shown in WGT tourney list)

  Dec: Tough-It-Out VT Dec event: Cabo (LB)  (shown in WGT tourney list)

  
  

  Tough-It-Out competitions have run for several years as community organized events here on WGT (see example here). The Tough-It-Out concept is all about trying to mimic the hardest conditions in Major Championship golf, giving us the challenge of trying to tackle the toughest courses in a manner similar to that faced by the top pros. Par will be a great score! 

  By using Starter Clubs and Balls only, and doing it with Uneven Lies we believe this is the hardest test on WGT, and it's one that's a level playing field (pun intended) for all participants. 

  WGT is offering a sleeve (of good balls) to the top 5 players in this 2 single-play rounds event (note requirements for prizes below). Thanks Shoe! Good luck! 

  *** LEADERBOARD & ENTRY LINK is here ***  (opens Fri 1/8)

  
  

  *** Remember, to be in the running for any prizes, you must take and post either a VIDEO record or SCREEN SHOTS with PROOF OF CLUBS used, along with both f9 & b9 CARDS and all the STATS!!!!! (see posts below for details) ***

  The tourney is open to all tiers and levels. We'll all be using the same clubs, balls, green speeds, and lies.

  PLEASE NOTE: the tourney link (when live) will take you directly to the game client, and if you do not have full Starter Clubs and Ball equipped, you'll get a warning message. Shoe sets these up as equipment-restricted events: please make sure you have only the original free Starter clubs equipped. 

  We really do want to encourage newbies to give it a go. It's a great chance for new players (who may be more familiar than old fogies with these clubs) to pit themselves against the best on WGT, and for the experienced player, it's a opportunity to revisit the fun of playing the game without the pressure of needing to make a birdie on almost every hole. 

  Prizes:

  WGTdbloshoe is generously offering a sleeve (of good balls) to the top 5 finishers across two completed rounds (provided club proof requirements have been met).

  Other prizes will be announced below shortly, depending on what donations come in. Please feel free to offer something if you are so moved!

  As with prior Tough-It-Out events there'll be special prizes in different categories. And, of course, it would be great if any participants are willing and able to Twitch their rounds.

  Any questions, please feel free to ask here in the thread.

  Thanks, and have fun!

  *** LEADERBOARD & ENTRY LINK is here ***  (opens Fri 1/8)

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  Tips:

  • If, god forbid, you happen to go Out of Bounds, please note that there's a WGT glitch. You will be put back to where you played the last shot, but instead of showing the lie that you had first time around, it will display as a Black-Box flat lie. Don't believe it! The lie will play exactly as it had first time around, so remember what you had before and play for that.

• Corwyn 2,410 Posts

  Thu, Jan 7 2016 12:05 PM

  <reserved for prizes info>

  PRIZES:

  WGTdbloshoe will award a sleeve to the top 5 players on the final leaderboard (provided they post proof of clubs used along with cards and stats, for each round)

  In addition... there will be Special Prizes, which will be announced below (and are subject to the same requirements as the leaderboard prizes).

  If anyone wants to be a sponsor, or has another particular prize they think should be offered, please let me know.

  Possible Special Prizes: these are the categories we've offered in the past. Some or all, may be on offer this time depending on sponsorships.

  1) Highest overall percentage of Greens in Regulation  (tiebreaker: AveDistancePin)      SPONSORED: Corwyn        

  2) Closest Ave. Distance to the Hole                  SPONSORED: Corwyn

  3) Greatest overall total distance made putts                   

  4) Longest putt made         

  5) 'Sticking With It Award' (highest scoring finisher that posts all cards&stats)     

  6) Least Number of Bogeys or Worse   

  7) Most Number of Birdies or Better    SPONSORED: fmagnets 

  8) Most 1-Putt Saves (as determined by scorecard)     SPONSORED: Corwyn

  9) Best Average Scrambling Award (as determined by stats)  (tiebreaker: Most1PuttSaves unless same winner)   

  
  

  *** Link to Stats sheet for special prizes is here ***

  Note that I'm keeping the player's data from prior events in the left-most Club Proof column, as most players seem to do the same kind of proof each month. A round is only valid and checked if I've made it bold!

  
  

  SPONSORS:

  will be listed here

  Corwyn:

  Also, I'm going to throw in my usual sponsorship of a sleeve for the following 3 prizes:

  1) Highest overall percentage of Greens in Regulation  (tiebreaker: AveDistancePin)          SPONSORED: Corwyn

  2) Closest Ave. Distance to the Hole        SPONSORED: Corwyn

  8) Most 1-Putt Saves (as determined by scorecard)    SPONSORED: Corwyn

  fmagnets:

  I´ll take the same as last month again. Thx

  fmagnets:

  I'd like to offer a sleeve for most birdies or better. Tiebreaker is most eagles, then fewest over-par holes.

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  SPECIAL PRIZES:

  Remember: To be in the running for special prizes, please note you will need to share video or screenshots proving clubs used, and your full scorecard and stats.

  Tips on how to take screenshots are here: http://www.take-a-screenshot.org/ and here.

  This Video shows specifically how to make the required Greenshot image and this one shows what to do if you wish to submit Video Evidence instead.

  If anyone's having difficulty with Hovering over the bag for the Greenshot image, please see this post.

  And, here's my own How-To video on Posting Screenshots to the Forum thread: https://youtu.be/PWC9zotwl2w

  My recommended free hosting service is: http://postimage.org/ -- free, and no signup required) which will provide you with a 'direct link' which you paste in after clicking the 'Insert Media' button above. Please note though that images must be under 1MB in size to get the Direct Link to appear. (Use the resize option within postimage.org if you find that Direct Link doesn't appear.)

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  Again, any donations of prizes will be gratefully accepted! Don't be shy... !

• Corwyn 2,410 Posts

  Thu, Jan 7 2016 12:05 PM

  <reserved for Video Proof information> 

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  VIDEO PROOF OF CLUBS USED:

  If you have video or streaming capability, please do share a recording of your round, and please include in the recording a view of the equipment profile [click on your player name, then on the Equipment tab during the round]. Please also include a quick note of the right time point to find this information.

  Alternatively, if your set-up doesn't allow you to record while playing without making the meter unmanageable, you can record a tiny segment of video just before the conclusion of the round that will satisfy the verification requirements.

  With my old Mac, I can't stream or even run any of the fancy recording software needed for Twitch etc, but even old Macs do come with QuickTime Player which offers a simple Screen Recording option. Look and see if your computer has something similar.

  You can offer video evidence of clubs used that need only be a few seconds long.

  Start your recording while on the last green with your current score and conditions visible: click on your player name, then on Equipment, which will display your club set: please click through each club in the bag. Close the Equipment profile and then quickly visit Menu > Scorecard to click through B9, F9, and all 4 Stats tabs before closing back out. Then stop the recording, and save it somewhere. You can now complete your round without any impact on CPU memory due to the recording process as you won't need it while playing any shots. Upload this brief clip to YouTube or similar and post the link in the Forum thread.

  Here's an example of what is requested as Video Evidence: https://youtu.be/zyaoo2aqVZ4

  Note: if you have video capability, and sink your final putt with a sudden realization that you failed to get the screenshot or take the video earlier, then you can still prove you've used the right clubs. Start a continuous recording from the final scorecard/stats page and then, on the return to the main menu, immediately show the clubs one by one that are in your bag, either as Mags has done just with a hover over or by clicking on equipment and running through each club (as I did after my R1).

  If you've recorded your entire round, but forgotten to show an equipment profile, I will still accept video proof... if you provide time references (or even better, time links) to places in the round where you use each of the following clubs: 3W, 3H, SW, LW.

• Corwyn 2,410 Posts

  Thu, Jan 7 2016 12:06 PM

  <reserved for screenshot examples and tips: #1 with Hover>

  Below is an example from a practice round for a TIO tourney of the screenshot postings required...

  Things to note:

  • I've pasted each separate item together (using a photo-editing program), but you can submit them as separate images if that's easier.

  • Please only resize down for forum posting to 450px width: please also retain ability for us to right-click/open image to see in legible size. And please also leave the pics active: don't delete them from your photo-service account before the prize-giving is concluded Thanks!

  • The first pic, a Greenshot on the Last Hole achieves the following:

  1. Confirms Wind and Green Speed conditions, and by switching to Full/Chip/Pitch shot mode displays Lie conditions (confirming Uneven Lies). (We just switch to a club other than the putter in order to show the conditions as best as possible: we switch back to hit the actual final shot!)

  2. Shows score after 17th hole, which can be matched to scorecard. 

  [Please note: I will accept a Greenshot (in the format required) on any of the last 4 holes. Final hole is ideal, but if you're worried you'll forget on the final hole, any of the last 4 holes is OK]

  3. Proves that Starter ball was used.

  4. Confirms clubs used during the round (as far as is possible given the constraints presented by WGT's programming).

  Our best method to achieve this is to do what we've dubbed a "BagShot" - switch to Full/Chip/Pitch mode on the final green (or any of the last few holes), and hover over the bag before doing a keystroke screengrab.

  IMPORTANT: I have selected the 3H (which is the highlighted club in the numerical club list), but have then hovered over the 3W to enable it to display in the bottom row along with its distance rating 205yds. This offers proof for both of those clubs in one screenshot. The 3H graphic is also displayed as the club in the avatar's hands, offering further verification (note, one can choose a camera view to best display the avatar and club: in this instance I moved the view round until I got one that showed the club in hand as clearly as possible).

  Here's a brief video showing how I made the Greenshot image below.

  [The Hover over followed by screengrab can be tricky for someone new to it: on a Mac, you just click Command-Shift-4. For Windows, please see this post.]

  

  If you absolutely can't manage to do the Hover over, you can provide 4 separate versions of the Greenshot, with 3W, 3H, SW and LW shown in each. See post immediately below for example.

  For eligibility for prizes, don't forget to also post screenshots of all stats tabs. 

  How-To video: Stitching together your Greenshot, Scorecards, & Stats images.

  How-To video: Uploading your final pic to an image-hosting service & posting it.

• Corwyn 2,410 Posts

  Thu, Jan 7 2016 12:07 PM

  <reserved for screenshot post with 4 Clubs>

  If your system doesn't allow you to do a screengrab successfully while Hovering over the bag, you can provide 4 separate versions of the Greenshot, with 3W, 3H, SW and LW shown in each.

  These are the only clubs that matter for Club Proof!

  Again, please do your Greenshot on the last hole (to provide best match with the scorecard). 

  I will accept a Greenshot (in the format required) on any of the last 4 holes.

  Final hole is best, but for the forgetful, any of the last 4 holes is OK]

  

  Obviously, don't forget to include the card and stats as well!

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  How-To video: Stitching together your Greenshot, Scorecards, & Stats images.

  How-To video: Uploading your final pic to an image-hosting service & posting it.

• Corwyn 2,410 Posts

  Thu, Jan 7 2016 12:07 PM

  <reserved for opening page copy of Event Wrap-Up & final leaderboard>

  Congratulations Mags, on another very worthy Tough-It-Out win, an impressive follow-up to last month's victory at Cabo. 

  The tourney ended last night, with several challengers coming close but not able to find enough birdies to catch Mags the front-runner, who is surely without doubt the most outstanding player on WGT.

  A forum thread a little while ago asked the question who was the best player here, but no-one mentioned versatility. None of the other top players mentioned in that thread demonstrate the same level of skill at different forms of the game, whereas Mags has mastered Uneven Lies, and play with Starters as well as dominating the VT placings and earnings lists in the flat-lie game.

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  Thus, here is the formal wrap-up for TIO @ Whistler tourney:

  Leaderboard (link):

  

  It's fitting that our top 5 finishing leaderboard prize-winners were the only players to shoot par or better, in what turned out to be a slightly easier TIO set-up than in the past. I was fearful of setting too fast green speeds on these crazy greens but perhaps that made it too easy, lol!

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  LEADERBOARD PRIZES:

  A sleeve (sent by WGT) goes to each of the top 5 verified finishers on the final leaderboard (i.e. those who provided club proof for both rounds). They are: fmagnets, Corwyn, BunkerBuzzer, buey1950 and tied 5th: StrollinAlong, ColumbusStorm, OleFernando.

  1. fmagnets   lvl 90 Nike Blacks  CONFIRMED

  2. Corwyn   lvl 90 Nike Blacks  CONFIRMED

  2. BunkerBuzzer   max pro + black  CONFIRMED

  4. buey1950     max pro +   CONFIRMED

  5. StrollinAlong   Max meter pro blacks  CONFIRMED

  5. ColumbusStorm   lvl 81 Nikes  CONFIRMED

  5. OleFernando   max pro + black  CONFIRMED

  
  

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  SPECIAL PRIZES:

  Here is a pic of the final standings for these prizes: right-click on the image to enlarge, and keep clicking until you get largest view

  

  Note I've added a highlight in yellow on the box where that player won that category, and highlights in blue if they were next in the standings.

  
  

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  These were the sponsored prizes. The winners are noted below and their results are shown in the Stats Spreadsheet for the tourney:

  1) Highest overall % of GIR  (tiebreaker: Ave Distance to Pin)    SPONSORED: Corwyn   WINNERS: BunkerBuzzer, fmagnets, StrollinAlong all tied with 28 greens hit in regulation (spreadsheet rounding up shows fractionally different results of 77.5-78%). Because their Ave. Distance to the Pin totals were also unbelievably close (separated by 0.25ft) I am going to award all 3 a sleeve! 

  2) Closest Ave. Distance to the Hole              SPONSORED: Corwyn   WINNER: DaniUnchained is the winner with 12.8ft and is probably uncatchable.

  8) Most 1-Putt Saves (as determined by scorecard)   SPONSORED: Corwyn   WINNER: razza31 is the winner with 8 (including a stunning 6 in R2)

  7) Most Number of Birdies or Better    SPONSORED: fmagnets   WINNER: Corwyn is the winner with 11, just edging out five players with 10 (fmagnets, BunkerBuzzer, buey1950, StrolinAlong, DaniUnchained)

  I am also going to add bonus sleeves for our regular putting prizes which did not get sponsors earlier:

  3) Greatest overall total distance made putts      SPONSORED: Corwyn   WINNER:  HIOSoon with 178.05 is the winner (I confess I'm sponsoring this prize in part to reward Paul for truly toughing-it-out after posting a 9 on the card in R1!)

  4) Longest putt made      SPONSORED: Corwyn   WINNER: AdamK70 is the winner with a 35.4ft effort in R2

   

  Other notable achievements from Stats sheet:

  Scrambling (via the Stats tab figure): mmyers0 topped this category, with an 54.5% total.

  Least Number of Bogies: Not surprisingly our winner fmagnets had the least bogies with 4 (this is typically the stat that corresponds with winning each event... take note!).

  Least # of Putts: was buey1950 with a very impressive 55 (30/25).

  No 3-Putts: No fewer than 3 players avoided a 3-putt on the tricky Whistler greens, fmagnets, Corwyn, and buey1950.

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  It's nice to see a different winner for each sponsored prize this time. Here's the summary of sleeves requested and accounted for:

  BunkerBuzzer   Black max pro  CONFIRMED   [SENT by Corwyn]

  fmagnets    lvl 90 Nike Blacks  CONFIRMED    [sponsored by Corwyn: 'quits' with prize below]

  StrollinAlong   Max meter pro blacks  CONFIRMED    [SENT by Corwyn]

  DaniUnchained  Nike blacks   CONFIRMED   [SENT by Corwyn]

  razza31   Nike L71  CONFIRMED     [SENT by Corwyn]

  Corwyn    lvl 90 Nike Blacks  CONFIRMED    [sponsored by fmagnets: 'quits' with prize above]

  HIOSoon   Max meter pro   CONFIRMED     [SENT by Corwyn]

  AdamK70  Cally Chrome lvl 33  CONFIRMED  [SENT by Corwyn]

• Corwyn 2,410 Posts

  Thu, Jan 7 2016 12:07 PM

  <reserved for 2015 Tour Wrap-Up>

• Corwyn 2,410 Posts

  Thu, Jan 7 2016 12:07 PM

  <reserved for anything else!>

  A number of players wonder why we are asking for Club Proof evidence when it's a restricted-club event with the requirements supposedly set up in the programming. Well... read on!

  The following is a copy of 'The Future of Tough-It-Out' post from the Chambers Bay event in September:

   

  Corwyn:

  The Future of Tough-It-Out

  I considered making this post as a separate thread, but didn't want to distract from all the other great things going on in Community-Run Tourneys right now, so am just putting it in here along with this event. 

  By posting it, I'm hoping to offer some transparency around why I'm asking for the Club Proof, and why it matters to the integrity of these events.

  I do realize it's an extra burden to take these screenshots, and that's why I'm trying to minimize what we're asking for, and why I'm providing examples and How-To videos to make it as easy as possible. If you are feeling grumpy about why we're asking for this level of proof, please read this post first to try and understand the pros and cons of the alternatives. And if you have a better suggestion of how I might run these events, please feel free to share it!

  Thanks,

  Corwyn

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  The Problem:

  WGT's restricted-club programming doesn't work properly. Back in spring 2015, various reports in each tournament that was set up indicated something was wrong. Shoe kindly set up a test for us, and a number of volunteers gave their time to help arrive at a diagnosis for WGT of where the flaws were.

  Our findings were passed on but we're not confident right now (and nor is Shoe) that WGT will devote engineer time to fixing the issue (despite having put a lot of programming time into developing the feature in the first place).

  The restricted-club settings are open to abuse, and it's pretty much public knowledge now (through so many postings in the tournament Forum threads) that anyone who wants to cheat can do so (and even how they can do it).

  So, for these events to have a future, I have what I see as 4 choices in terms of how to run them:

   

  1. Return to original Tough-It-Out method (from 2+ years ago) of playing as Multiplayer only, with sign-ups through the Forum thread. 

  Pros:

  players play in twosomes and verify that each other is using the right clubs (although even this is theoretically open to abuse if two players collude).

  Cons: 

  • many fewer entrants (i.e. 20-30, compared to 350-800+ approx through the Game Client tourney list).

  • much, much more work for the organizer in setting up Time Availability Charts, scheduling pairs, and chasing players to submit times, and get their rounds played.

  • same issues faced with card screenshots, and greenshots proving to the rest of the field that correct conditions were met, and clubs used.

  • challenge of getting multiplayer games finished, with all the various glitches going on right now.

   

  2. Running the event as single-player with Shoe's assistance in setting up tournament.

  This could be done either just as a private tournament, accessed only via a link through the Forum Thread (as the TIO Monthly Events were from January through May), or publicly available through the full Tournament List in the Game Client/Tournament page (as was done for us by Shoe in June, and then for both events in August).

   

  a) Private Link through Forum Only:

  Pros: 

  • though it's a smaller group of players, anyone finding and using the link to play is more likely to be an honest participant!

  Cons:

  • … but with prizes on the line, would still need players to post proof of clubs used. So, in effect just reducing the field without avoiding the club proof problem.

   

  b) Public through Game Client Tournament List

  Pros:  

  • this vastly increases the participation, introducing 100s of players to this game format.

  • people can play in their own time, no need for pairing up, or to navigate the disconnect challenges with multiplayer right now.

  Cons: 

  • Players have to go to some trouble to learn about screenshots or short video proof in order to be eligible for prizes. However, players can choose to do this, or just enjoy playing the events for fun.

   

  3. Do not require Club Proof, but only offer Prizes to those players that formally 'Claim' the prize in the forum thread, on the understanding that by 'claiming' they are making a public commitment to the community that they participated honestly. This is the method I used in the June event, when two of the players on the leaderboard opted not to claim, and one was exposed as having used wrong clubs. I don't like this option, because it seems likely to lead to witch-hunt behavior, and for those of us who genuinely want to know if our score is competitive, it leads to more questions than answers. Back in June, it also meant time spent monitoring certain players' Profile pages by a team of volunteers (not really how we want to spend our time here). 

   

  4. No Prizes at all

  I've considered this option in response to player suggestions that if there were no prizes, we wouldn't have to worry about proof of clubs. However, I think there are two flaws with this: 1. if there were no prizes on the line, it defeats the goal of having strong players compete in a level-playing field event. Those of us who try and do well in this format are hoping to do so against the best players out there. So, no prizes would limit the participants and limit the submission of any stats either (which is a large part of what I find interesting about the events, to see how different players have tackled the course-management challenges each event poses)…

  and 2. The best players still wouldn't know if they'd been beaten by someone playing honestly or not. For many top players, it's not about winning a sleeve or two, it's about the pride of winning the event. Offering prizes and asking for screenshots is our best way of establishing if the top scores are genuine.

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  So, it's sad that the Restricted-Club Programming doesn't work as it should, but until WGT put in the extra effort to complete the job they initiated when programming this feature in the first place, it seems to me that the best solution is to continue with the 2 b) option, keeping it as a public event through the tourney list and offering prizes as an incentive to see proof of honest participation. 

  Thanks for reading,

  Corwyn

• Corwyn 2,410 Posts

  Fri, Jan 8 2016 5:40 AM

  Bump!

  Tough-It-Out tourney at Whistler is under way!

  Good luck everyone!!! (and don't forget the club proof if you want to be eligible for prizes)