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Sat, Jan 9 2016 1:39 AM (13 replies)
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  • tipotto
    14 Posts
    Thu, Jan 7 2016 4:22 PM

    distance to the green are they taken  from the begining of the green or from the center of the green

  • Drdave72
    272 Posts
    Thu, Jan 7 2016 7:16 PM

    tipotto:

    distance to the green are they taken  from the begining of the green or from the center of the green

    I believe it is distance to the pin / cup.

  • alosso
    21,083 Posts
    Thu, Jan 7 2016 7:45 PM

    (distance to the green)

    Drdave72:

    I believe it is distance to the pin / cup.

    True. It's visible any time when hovering over the blue dot on the minimap.

    Scorecard lengths on Par3s are equal to this. On Par4/Par5s (= top right number before the first shot) they may be different for various reasons.

  • cdefghi
    2,872 Posts
    Thu, Jan 7 2016 8:00 PM

    Drdave72:
    I believe it is distance to the pin / cup.

    You are correct , but plus or minus 35.9 inches.  By going to pitch view and then getting behind the hole, then drag the aimer towards and away, you'll notice 50 yds can become 51 yds. or  49 yds. within the width of the cup itself.  Zeroing in on exact yardage this way allows for precise distance control, within what WGT calls " the circle of precision." It becomes even more important to do this when you're stretching a shot to its max. Knowing you have a long 52 yds can go along way to determining whether you stretch a 50 yd club, or back off a punched 75 yd wedge. 

     As far as consistency on what that circle of precision is, becomes a whole different ballgame.  Always remember, WTF shots happen no matter how well you calculate a shot,  even to the elite WGT's players.  Giving yourself the best chance possible by learning how to pinpoint distance to the yd helps offset any minor variation.

     

     

  • alosso
    21,083 Posts
    Thu, Jan 7 2016 8:24 PM

    Interesting addition concerning the yard fraction.

    Alas, nitpickingly, would it not be 17.9 inches, with a full yard being 36 inches?

  • courteneyfish
    15,796 Posts
    Thu, Jan 7 2016 9:01 PM

    They're not all as the crow flies though. 

  • alosso
    21,083 Posts
    Thu, Jan 7 2016 9:57 PM

    Not scorecard length, but green distance is direct.

  • cdefghi
    2,872 Posts
    Fri, Jan 8 2016 2:42 AM

    alosso:

    Interesting addition concerning the yard fraction.

    Alas, nitpickingly, would it not be 17.9 inches, with a full yard being 36 inches?

    It could be .90 inches or 35.9  inches depending exactly where the exact yard landed in relation to the center of the hole or the pin. The example I used was 50yds,  so for our purposes we'll use that again. 

     Say I find myself 50 yds from the hole with no real wind to consider. I click on pitch view then click on the camera icon finding my self viewing from just behind the hole.  Upon dragging the aimer backwards, it immediately goes to 51 yds.  I usually try to at least figure back of the hole for yardages, a little more on putts but that's a whole different story.

    So now instead of just adding or subtracting elevation yardage to what the rounded or suggested yardage is, I add/ subtract  that figure to what the true distance to the hole is and get as accurate a yardage as you possibly can.

    Camera angle in relation to the players angle also should be figured, not just to account for proper aim/wind allowance, but also for line of flight true distance in relation to. ( As the crow flies thingy as Courteney ^^^ pointed out above) 

    I understand this all may seem a bit anal, but believe me once you know your clubs max limitations, pinpoint distance control is possible.  For an example, adding fts on a 50 shot into even a stiff breeze, can accurately stretch a shot past the clubs limitations without it wildly rolling past the hole, or stopping way short because of  shorting myself on the basic starting yardage distance, even before allowing for elevation.

  • mantis0014
    8,946 Posts
    Fri, Jan 8 2016 3:23 AM

    alosso:

    Not scorecard length, but green distance is direct.

    Pretty good example I suppose.

    Never go by the yardage shown at the top of screen.  Always look at the yardage shown on the Aim Pointer. 

    When hitting off shorter tees the yardage can be totally different on some holes. Few holes on St.A is perfect example as it can be 50-60 yrds less than it's shown at the top of screen.

  • hakman123
    2,119 Posts
    Fri, Jan 8 2016 5:39 AM

    cdefghi:

    alosso:

    Interesting addition concerning the yard fraction.

    Alas, nitpickingly, would it not be 17.9 inches, with a full yard being 36 inches?

    It could be .90 inches or 35.9  inches depending exactly where the exact yard landed in relation to the center of the hole or the pin. The example I used was 50yds,  so for our purposes we'll use that again. 

    You clearly did not understand Alosso's point.

    In the example you are giving where it shows 50 yards -- you are actually at about 50 yards and 17 inches.  Dragging the cursor outside the hole flips it to 51 yards.   So in this instance the distance shown is short by 17 inches.

    If you were another 2 inches away - the distance shown would have been 51 yards. Now dragging the curser a whisker closer to the hole flips it to 50 yards.  Now the distance shown is long by 17 inches.

    The rounding error by WGT only showing the distance to an integer number of yards CANNOT be greater than exactly 1/2 a yard.   18 inches.

    If you round to the nearest whole number in mathematics - the maximum error is 0.5

    OK - it's nitpicky, but you deserve it when it is explained to you correctly - and then you argue with the mathematicians.

     

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