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Why I consider to leave WGT after 5 1/2 years...

Mon, Apr 18 2016 4:35 PM (66 replies)
  • tiger319
    1,186 Posts
    Sat, Apr 16 2016 3:34 PM

    He ain't going anywhere.  Still playing 2 days after the rant...

  • ct690911
    7,205 Posts
    Sat, Apr 16 2016 4:07 PM

    tiger319:

    He ain't going anywhere.  Still playing 2 days after the rant...

    Most people don't leave. There have been lots of rants on here by folks threatening to leave...where are they going to go? I guess there is pogo or amazon games...but, seriously?

    EDIT : My above comments are not meant to diminish the frustration most of us have endured with this game. I don't threaten to quit because it is a hollow threat, like has been seen so many times from others on here.

    Chad probably saw the writing on the wall when he sold his interest in WGT. I'm still a bit awestruck with the amount of fanfare that surrounded the merger..who were the beneficiaries?  What I do know, is that until another company develops legitimate competition to wgt, we are all basically stuck with this game, warts and all.

    ct

  • Robert1893
    7,722 Posts
    Sat, Apr 16 2016 4:55 PM

    ct690911:
    Most people don't leave...been lots of rants on here by folks threatening to leave...where are they going to go?

    http://www.mini-putt.org/

  • dorkfeatures
    712 Posts
    Sat, Apr 16 2016 5:01 PM

    Hi,

    For your info Windows 10 works just fine -  from Australia lolol.

    I played on windows 7 for 7 years or so, but upgraded to windows 10 just last month - you cant stay on windows 7 for ever - and it plays just fine !! No problems here.

    Cheers

    Doug

     

  • CerinoDevoti
    3,232 Posts
    Sat, Apr 16 2016 5:09 PM

    KYLANDER:

    This game was fun. Excellent courses, very nice transition into "virtual".

     ( As  a real golfer with hcp 13,  I played St.Andy ( 90 bucks) and Pebbles ( 465 bucks) for real.

    Finally, after all I did, and i played and paid a lot, I feel no response. Seems Top Golf heading for the software, not for the players. Game, esp. in multi-player games, is full of "glitches". Game is corrupted, and i have 7 browsers, the fastest Mac on earth, and 100 M/bit lan. Please, never ever tell me, it is me, it's just You, cowards on an 8 year old "beta" , built in Flash, Adobe stopped supporting in 2011.

    i will leave today, forever, You could have been outstanding, but U decided for the "dark side". 5 or so happy, Millions disappointed. well done, a**holes

     

     

    Don't go away mad, just...

  • CMcCartney727
    1,417 Posts
    Sat, Apr 16 2016 6:04 PM

    As someone who complains frequently on here but is still playing, I can relate to the OP's post.  There IS no response from anyone from WGT on the issues posted here- they are just collecting the money.  I"m sure I've spent a lot more than the $5K I've 'won' on this site. but they give you nothing.. outrageous prices for 'fake' clubs and balls.. The free weekly tourneys I win 10, 20 credits sometimes..lol.. it pays for 10% of ONE of the balls I use.  Any credits they 'give' you aren't real money- they're not losing anything, they're just allowing you to play their game for free, in theory. 300 credits to advance to champion?  WOW, that's like 1 1/2 FREE golf balls!! It is frustrating that they are STILL in Beta... as if that absolves them of all the problems.  

    As someone who has worked in customer service for years, they do it all wrong here.  Fortunately for them, they're the only game in town.  

  • KYLANDER
    970 Posts
    Sat, Apr 16 2016 6:55 PM

    update by the original post author:

    First of all, I edited my original „complaint“ to a milder, more appropriate language. I was in "the heat of the moment“ when I wrote it.  I have played nearly 7.000 ranked rounds, coming to level 105, so WGT was a big part of my leisure time… when U love someone or something, U might be more „engaged“ then if it is just a game...

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    Secondly, the facts I wrote are still the same:

    Customer service in terms of doing better in game experience is „out of order“. And so on… It is still unsatisfying how WGT handles its customers. Flash is an outdated software causing most of the troubles/glitches and game abortions.

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    Third: Tyvm for all the honest contributions to this issue, and a mild smile for all those disregarding facts and figures for their personal warfare.

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    4th: I am still here, trying a browser for Mac that seems to work - at least better…. it’s name is Stainless, and i think it is no longer supported by the developer, so it is even with „Flash“, :-)

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    Why am I still here? Tried to sell equipment and give the money in terms of balls to my CC captain, who spends countless hours to run a CC here. Was not easy, but now i know how…and I had some credits in my account...

    The many emails I got on this additionally took my notice. With respect, I was glad to learn that people do care, even if some care „wrong“, lol.

    What I personally learned is three things:

    • never argue in „heat“, although your arguments may be correct, the tone and the language are wrong. (will be true for any discussion with opposite gender as well…)

    • it is hard to give up a „drug“ at once, cold turkey that is called in Europe, meaning immediate removal on spot. I will go on a lesser „dose“, and it worked fine the last days...

    • and finally, and I thought I knew this before in a 54 year long life, You will never change a system from outside, unless you have ultimate powers…

    WGT does not take care, we know for years, why bother? Take it or leave it.

    US elections are based on money and promises to receive campaign money in swop for favors, had been, has been, is, and will be… If You understood a system, why bother in emails to change it? None of us has the power...

    Although I do think WGT as an online-game is shrinking (for many players left without notice in recent weeks, sometimes You do not even get 4 players for alternate…), I try to live with that. Everything has its time...

    Good days we had, good days may come...

     

  • mantis0014
    8,946 Posts
    Sat, Apr 16 2016 7:15 PM

    I tell you what the biggest problem is playing this game and just about everybody falls for it.

    That is everybody uses exact calculations for every shot or try to do. Ok, eg you think 1+1=2, hit ya shot and it comes out to totally fooked    lol.   Blame the game. 

    I played the game on an old puter running XP, with 4mb Ram.  The things I had to do just to get to the Tee was horrendous   lol  

    Now I have a new puter with a I7 processor and 8gb ram... no problems.  I must admit, I have a couple of meter skips now and again... not too much to worry about.

    Multi Player games ... no problems in finishing.  I say that as we don't click any of the Gimmes or concede holes etc  That might cause an issue.

    What I don't like is people on here blaming the game(Wgt)  for their short comings... as in their own stupid calculations    lol

    This is the best online game out there.   Have fun

    -Roger

     

  • TracyMax
    2,361 Posts
    Sat, Apr 16 2016 9:17 PM

    KYLANDER:

    CT, here it is why:

    • nearly every 4some game (alternate f.e.) will not finish, because people unable to relog

    • if U play 18 holes single, u will have at least 2 times when meter runs through, taking ur ball to the right, in water or deep ***. U will lose 4 strokes at least, and at least one ball.

    • I wrote several times to WGT on that issue in the last 6 weeks - guess what? Right, no answer. If I would handle my clients like WGT does, I would be out of business...

    • this game is built in "Flash", a software Steve Jobs refused to have on ipads and iphones, because it is full of "bugs". Adobe, the publisher, stopped developing "Flash" officially in 2011, 5 years ago...

    • I have sustainable knowledge of IT technologies. I played this game in LAN-mode (ethernet direct), not WLAN, with a wired mouse (not a wireless one), using 7 different browsers, including flash friendly ones like Stainless or Maxthon, clearing browser history and caches after each game. 

    • within the top 200 ranked, i know my skills and my own failures. Have made 665 "friends" here, and people describe me as friendly, warm-hearted and encouraging. I play alternate with master level folks, encouraging them and giving them hints on green speed or club selection, if they want.

    • WGT does not take care of game performance. The old owners were focussing on gadgets and silly add-ons like sounds, developing power was mainly focussed on mobile platforms (tablets). The new owners do not care at all, they just want to transit the software to their Top Golf fun parks.

    • many, many players left in the last 2 months without notice, being fed up with the way WGT handles issues. The only "answer" of WGT is more promotions, more clash games, more discount if U buy credits, and so on.

    • if it would be my company, I would listen to my customers. Work hard on game experience, getting rid of "fancies", getting back to the state of solid, which was around 18 months ago (when everything was fine, game was nearly bug free). But they don't care...

    Why shall I? This game is no longer based on skill, but on luck, when and how the "glitches" happen... I lost many games due to glitches recently, and nearly never could finish an alternate game, which takes a lot of time and then is just a waist of time...

    Truly disappointed of a leisure experience, which was great for many years, but now it is only a "joke", and a real bad one...

    Cheers, Kylander

    Been around 5 yrs, and I can't really take issue with what he says.

  • oneeyedjohn
    9,581 Posts
    Mon, Apr 18 2016 1:40 AM

    KYLANDER:

    is just a waist of time...

    I think u mean waste, not important but disturbing to see someone who has so much to say make such a basic error in his English.

     

    It maybe a clue to why so many flounces, in that these people do not get the basics right on their computer. Yes, we all have problems, white exclamation marks, unexpected error, and spinning wheel in AS games, and BSOD on the penultimate shot in single play.

    But somehow we work around it, tolerate it, and basically just get on with it.

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