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If there's moving dots a slope would be good

• chrisironsbones 3,524 Posts

  Mon, Mar 7 2011 11:58 AM

  This was my multiround Kiwah tourney just now:

  Hole 1: 111 yards to pin 14 mph headwind, i use 115 yard PW (with Callaway spin) ball travells 118 yards??? forced to go for 21 foot putt now! but got it.

  Hole 2: I land within 2 yards of hole but ball spins back 6 yards back to fringe!

  Hole 3:  5 foot putt for bidie.  Dots indicating a decent right left break. I adjust aim but ball goes straight???

  Hole 5: my tee shot gets within 2 yards of hole.  My six foot putt indicates a big break, again ball doesn't turn at all.

  Why indicate a slope if there isn't one!!!! O well onwards to next

  Hole 6: I have 140 yard approach with 19 mph HEADWIND.  I aim at hole and use 9 iron, ding shot but ball lands 9 yards LEFT! Whats happening to me.......

  Hole 8: My 200 yard iron with 17 mph sidewind travells 182 yards, come up 15 yards short!

  Hole 9: 14 mph sidewind 166 yards to pin, i use 175 yard iron, just a cm under full (171 worth of power) ball lands 152 yards?? Would a slight tiny weeny bit of backspin be to blame?

  Is this just one of those rounds where every shot goes wrong no matter how hard i try and also to make the multi round open a bit harder because at moment i'm 10th with -3?  I entered it on a high after beating a tour master 5-0 at Kiwah front 9 in a challenge match only the round before, what a difference a ROUND makes! Lol.

• BolloxInBruges 1,389 Posts

  Mon, Mar 7 2011 12:07 PM

  Your daily threads bitching about things are getting rather annoying.  Just quit if the game frustrates you endlessly.

  Mental notes are key to putting, especially on kia.  The  grids are not as true as the other courses, as it was WGT's first attempt at mapping greens.

• chrisironsbones 3,524 Posts

  Mon, Mar 7 2011 12:19 PM

  Not bitching at all just indicating how bad a round can turn out for you, i'm seeing the funny side to it, and i have read that greens might NOT be the true value of what is shown..Maybe you HAVE taken mental notes for every inch of grass on the greens(scores show it & because i'd love to play a matchplay round with you to see how -15 is done on Oakmont), and u have given hole commentarys plenty of times only your rounds are ALWAYS good though!!(:, but i can only remember the odd hole roughly but i land in a different place most of the time so even if i remember breaks for a certain place there's not much chance i'll land there again. (exept 2, always south of hole where its flatish!)

  You jumped the gun and replied to my post before i had finished it because i was still updating the round as i played, so it may have looked like a rant before i had written it all... and if it bothers you that much why read them?

  The greens are spot on most of the time, its just a bummer missing 2 easy putts because of break.  But if you remember hole 5 that well, is there a break 2 yards south east of hole (north being the direction you look off tee)??

  And i've been quite complimentary lately, havn't had a moan in days lol, enjoying the game, like today starting the day with 100 credits and finishing tonight with a few packs of Callways and 500 credits, so i'm well happy...no need to *** at all!!

  P.S: Why is Bitching not censored but 8itch is? :)

• dchallenger 545 Posts

  Mon, Mar 7 2011 12:41 PM

  chrisironsbones:

  But if you remember hole 5 that well, is there a break 2 yards south east of hole (north being the direction you look off tee)??

   

  I think you answered your own question quite nicely:  "Hole 5: my tee shot gets within 2 yards of hole.  My six foot putt indicates a big break, again ball doesn't turn at all."

  apparently not.

   

  just typin'

   

  d.  :)

• chrisironsbones 3,524 Posts

  Mon, Mar 7 2011 12:48 PM

  Thats why i was asking...Dots indicate a break, but ball goes straight, so could it be the green is actually flat there because Icon mentioned that the greens might not actually be exactly true to whats indicated, and bollox recomends memorising, so maybe that particular spot does have a flat green.  I.e my ball didn't get influenced by the break that was on display, so next time i'm in that position maybe should try and hit ball straight knowing last shot there didn't get influenced by the break....Is that what you mean by memorising the greens?

  Because i'm o.k with Oakmont, know exactly how greens will effect approaches/putts, (roughly), but i notice kiwah has a lot of different directions in close proximatry. 

   

• PGAbound67 565 Posts

  Mon, Mar 7 2011 7:03 PM

  Kiawah has a lot of those tricky puts that leave you scratching your head some times, just have to remember them next time. 

  #1 pin high left, grid shows double break, but it doesnt move the first half.

  #2 6ft past the hole the grid shows putt breaks a couple inches left, it actually doesn't break at all, maybe even goes a lil right.

  #3 short of pin breaks hard right 3-4" at the hole, while it doesnt break nearly as much from the opposite direction. Pin high right shows a double breaker that leads you to believe it should be played 1-2" L-R, but it's dead straight.

  #4 nothing out of the ordinary, tough putt from anywhere really

  #5 past the hole on the right, putt breaks 4-5" more than you think. past the hole left putt doesn't break as much as you think.

  #6 pin high left 8'+ away cross your fingers, I still havent figured that one out. Sometimes it breaks a ton, some times hardly any.

  #7 inside 6ft, it doesnt matter where you are, putt breaks hard at the hole more than the grid shows.

  #8 pin high- 2-3yds long and right, putt barely moves, but the grid leads you to believe it's going to break a foot.

  #9 fairly straight forward, long in line with the pin is tricky, always breaks more than I think.

  Kiawah's greens are just tricky, takes a lot of rounds to learn the little nuances.

• chrisironsbones 3,524 Posts

  Tue, Mar 8 2011 1:53 AM

  Thanks Pga, Pin 1 i always remember about 2nd break of the doublr not there.

  But the rest is very helpful, i'll keep these notes, and next time i might go for them, or maybe between what the notes say and what break shows, a safe middle ground LOL.

  Thanks Pga..Very helpfull

  Most of the greens they are pretty familiar, but occasionally a stray shot will land somewhere totaly mad, like on a seam, and no matter how you try your ball is going to run away from hole not near it!!!

• MioKontic 4,654 Posts

  Tue, Mar 8 2011 2:56 AM

  Just regard it as a mis-read and learn from it for next time.  Many times I've putted on real greens and read a break that was not there.  Or rather, probably was there but the ball did next to nothing.  I know this is not real golf, but treat it as such and accept that not everything is perfect.  If it was this game would be pretty damn boring.  I've read (never played it myself) that if you want to shoot -20 every round go and play TWO.  I'd rather the imperfections stayed... except for the meter glitches (which I very rarely get by the way)!

• BacardiAndCoke 449 Posts

  Thu, Mar 10 2011 1:58 PM

  Chris,

  2 questions,
  
  1. Are you allowing for up & down slopes as that makes a difference???
  
  2. Are you remembering the harder/faster the ball is traveling across the slope the less effect it has???

  Just curious

  Jessica