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High ding rate = cheating?

Sat, Dec 31 2016 5:26 PM (437 replies)
  • ct690911
    7,205 Posts
    Fri, Aug 5 2016 12:41 PM

    If a person was cheating, and knew he/she was going to be monitored for play, wouldn't that person simply play an average round for the tier level?...be kind of dumb to play off the charts, or terrible. An average game for a Champion might be 6-8 under for 9 holes?..no idea.

    Maybe the person wasn't aware of the monitoring, in which case I missed it in the posts and apologize.

    ct

  • DodgyPutter
    4,690 Posts
    Fri, Aug 5 2016 12:54 PM

    Jimbog1964:
    Look the round was absolutely worthless for counting dings.  The meter was incredibly awful, bouncing around all over the place.

    Ok Jim I'll give up on this and just a final attempt at clarification.

    What I said had nothing to do with who played the round or under what conditions.  It was all about what shots wgt count to arrive at their ding percentage.  It could have been a round of mine, with a perfect meter etc, as long as wgt told me what my ding percentage was in it.

    As said I give up now, I have no need to find precisely what he was accused of and nobody else seems to have any interest.  Anyway sounds like it's too late.

  • WigerToods2010
    8,447 Posts
    Fri, Aug 5 2016 12:56 PM

    Lmao, Mark.

    I can easily visualize you stood with the suit jacket opened, one hand on the jury box, the other thumbing the strap of your braces, imploring those sitting in judgement to take heed of your words.

    Superbly written.

    mkg335:

    Now wade into the water with me and prepare for a dunking.

    ;-)

    *Wiping the tears away* Almost had me there... then I remembered we're both fans of Mr. Dawkins.

    :)


  • mkg335
    5,491 Posts
    Fri, Aug 5 2016 12:59 PM

    ct690911:

    If a person was cheating, and knew he/she was going to be monitored for play, wouldn't that person simply play an average round for the tier level?...be kind of dumb to play off the charts, or terrible. An average game for a Champion might be 6-8 under for 9 holes?..no idea.

    Maybe the person wasn't aware of the monitoring, in which case I missed it in the posts and apologize.

    ct

    If you're speaking of the "trial" round, he was aware he was being monitored via twitch with task manager open, but was unaware of any criteria applied.  Under difficult conditions he gave it his best effort and shot -8 for 9 holes.

  • mkg335
    5,491 Posts
    Fri, Aug 5 2016 1:07 PM

    WigerToods2010:

    Lmao, Mark.

    I can easily visualize you stood with the suit jacket opened, one hand on the jury box, the other thumbing the strap of your braces, imploring those sitting in judgement to take heed of your words.

    Superbly written.

    mkg335:

    Now wade into the water with me and prepare for a dunking.

    ;-)

    *Wiping the tears away* Almost had me there... then I remembered we're both fans of Mr. Dawkins.

    :)


    Johnny, you've brought a smile to me, thanks...just doing my best Spencer Tracy impersonation.  Agree wholeheartedly concerning Mr. D, and Mr. H of course.  We can all appreciate the lyricism and poetry of the source referenced without subscribing to its alleged authorship nor to its literal truth.

  • Jimbog1964
    8,378 Posts
    Fri, Aug 5 2016 1:52 PM

    Reverse onus of proof is also a legal concept :).  

    Gets pretty out there pretty quick though, not least being because it's contentious in first world countries.  Still pretty kangaroo making the poor sod play with a meter no one alive could hit well, not revealing secret task set and then telling him fail after -8 thru 9............Pretty bloomin effed anywhich way that 1........

    Small interesting legal point more than anything, well, perhaps and perhaps maybe not :)

  • mkg335
    5,491 Posts
    Fri, Aug 5 2016 3:36 PM

    Am thinking that under the Code of Napoleon one is guilty until proven innocent, but who wants to live under Napoleon besides Josephine?

  • WillyBigg
    2,135 Posts
    Fri, Aug 5 2016 6:00 PM

    lonniescott711:

    WillyBigg:

    Not that serious, eh Lonnie? How would you feel if you had worked your tail off playing this game for 10 hours a day, everyday. And had built up a nice cache of credits HONESTLY & tomorrow you wake up not being able to log into your account. Then to find out you had been banned, permanently. IMO you do not get it at all & should stfu. If it's not so serious why are you here running your mouth. 

    We will raise all the hell we like if you don't like it, tough!

    Been here for 5 years 21k in credits in my account L101 Champion . How much harder do I have to work Willy ? I have played so much that my click finger was sore . I used to take a couple of aleve before I started playing . At one time I had gotten up to 1333 cdp so how much harder do I have to work Willy ? I mean if you want to kiss up some guys behind over a game you go ahead knock your self out . But you can tell your mammy to stfu .

    Maybe you talk to your wife or kids that way but Im not them . I havent disrespected anyone here in this thread but I am about to get in your ass . You all on your knees in a zipper lock over some guy who can no lnoger play the game and want to throw a temper tantrum like a pitiful little 2 year old . I get everything that ws said its the rest of you who dont seem to have a clue .

     WGT does not have to explain themselves or their decisions to any of us you are included in the us . If you dont like that then dont play the game and thats the way it is .WGT does not care if you stay or if you leave and that goes for all to whom it may apply .

     So get your head out of your behind because none of you are going to change a thing . Go find your girl friend Q and have a nice day , Because no one cares  not really . But for you to tell me as to what I get just goes to show how much you dont get .This may be the best golf sim on line but not the only game . I have others that I play when Im not on this ,

    Makes me wonder though why so many are so upset maybe all the cheaters havent been caught yet . Maybe some of you are just as dirty as Q and are waiting for the shoe to drop on you as well . Maybe hoping that Q wont spill their guts and tell on the rest of you as well . As the saying goes " You throw a rock at a pack of dogs and you will hit one every time " Now if you will excuse me I have a couple of beers in my freezer that need my attention .

    I will be back later for the next round of banter from the cry baby crew .

     

    Lonnie, you are something else! I really must have struck a nerve, LOL. If there is any butt kissing going on here, it is you with your head up wgt's tail feathers. You have shown great disrespect to many in this thread, so I threw it back in your face. RDG takes great pride in closely inspecting every person that is allowed into the club. Especially when it is someone of Mr. Q's ability. If there had ever been even the slightest hint that he was cheating in any way, he would have been dismissed from RDG. 

    Perhaps it's you who is worried about getting called out as a cheat, since you are in here defending wgt at every turn. I have not & will not ever kiss butt, & certainly not wgt's butt.

    And by the way I was not talking to anyone but you & you deserved every word.

  • ct690911
    7,205 Posts
    Fri, Aug 5 2016 6:38 PM

    "If there had ever been even the slightest hint that he was cheating in any way, he would have been dismissed from RDG."

    Willy, I believe this ^^^ to be true in any reputable club. Paul Alosso is an honorable man, and he lost a couple also.

    Wgt must have thought they found something serious, or they wouldn't have banned them. Considering some of the foul and racist language and childish behavior I have witnessed on here, it's actually not that easy to get permanently banned.

    ct

  • lonniescott711
    4,207 Posts
    Fri, Aug 5 2016 7:01 PM

    WillyBigg:

    lonniescott711:

    WillyBigg:

    Not that serious, eh Lonnie? How would you feel if you had worked your tail off playing this game for 10 hours a day, everyday. And had built up a nice cache of credits HONESTLY & tomorrow you wake up not being able to log into your account. Then to find out you had been banned, permanently. IMO you do not get it at all & should stfu. If it's not so serious why are you here running your mouth. 

    We will raise all the hell we like if you don't like it, tough!

    Been here for 5 years 21k in credits in my account L101 Champion . How much harder do I have to work Willy ? I have played so much that my click finger was sore . I used to take a couple of aleve before I started playing . At one time I had gotten up to 1333 cdp so how much harder do I have to work Willy ? I mean if you want to kiss up some guys behind over a game you go ahead knock your self out . But you can tell your mammy to stfu .

    Maybe you talk to your wife or kids that way but Im not them . I havent disrespected anyone here in this thread but I am about to get in your ass . You all on your knees in a zipper lock over some guy who can no lnoger play the game and want to throw a temper tantrum like a pitiful little 2 year old . I get everything that ws said its the rest of you who dont seem to have a clue .

     WGT does not have to explain themselves or their decisions to any of us you are included in the us . If you dont like that then dont play the game and thats the way it is .WGT does not care if you stay or if you leave and that goes for all to whom it may apply .

     So get your head out of your behind because none of you are going to change a thing . Go find your girl friend Q and have a nice day , Because no one cares  not really . But for you to tell me as to what I get just goes to show how much you dont get .This may be the best golf sim on line but not the only game . I have others that I play when Im not on this ,

    Makes me wonder though why so many are so upset maybe all the cheaters havent been caught yet . Maybe some of you are just as dirty as Q and are waiting for the shoe to drop on you as well . Maybe hoping that Q wont spill their guts and tell on the rest of you as well . As the saying goes " You throw a rock at a pack of dogs and you will hit one every time " Now if you will excuse me I have a couple of beers in my freezer that need my attention .

    I will be back later for the next round of banter from the cry baby crew .

     

    Lonnie, you are something else! I really must have struck a nerve, LOL. If there is any butt kissing going on here, it is you with your head up wgt's tail feathers. You have shown great disrespect to many in this thread, so I threw it back in your face. RDG takes great pride in closely inspecting every person that is allowed into the club. Especially when it is someone of Mr. Q's ability. If there had ever been even the slightest hint that he was cheating in any way, he would have been dismissed from RDG. 

    Perhaps it's you who is worried about getting called out as a cheat, since you are in here defending wgt at every turn. I have not & will not ever kiss butt, & certainly not wgt's butt.

    And by the way I was not talking to anyone but you & you deserved every word.

    Why again because I wont jump on the save Q band wagon . It has no purpose everything that you and the rest of your club members are arguing . Wont change a thing . I`m the last guy to take up for WGT as much as I have jumped them here in the forums .So you cant throw anything back in my face and you arent smart enough to strike my nerves . This is only a game nothing more and nothing less . At 55 years old none of this means anything to me .

    Took you all day to think up your reply to my post . I had a very nice conversation today with MK its on page 35 read it . Then you had to come along trying to rehash your ignorance to yesterdays threads . Its ok though if it makes you feel good so be it . I didnt disrespect anybody here . As I remember it was Baggs who called me out  and you as well . So no dont try to justify your immature actions by blaming me . But if it makes you feel good then so be it .

    You the man Willy if it makes you feel better but it wont change a thing . Q is still banned his account is still closed and nothing you or the rest of your club members and friends can do to change that . Gee Willy you not only lost the battle you also lost the war . Have a nice day or rather evening and also enjoy your weekend .

     

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