I've read some recent posts about both. I've been playing almost everyday for the last 4 yrs. I might have had 1 or 2 lip outs that I can remember (yes they are part of the game) in that time. But in the last 2 weeks I've had about 40 or more 6 in the last 9 hole game I played in. Not really complaining if something has changed around the cup change is nice I am still waiting on different pin placements in the tournaments. I've using the same putter and balls or 2 yrs now. I'm a fairly good putter but something seems a miss. Or can a putter wear out after so many putts in computer golf thanks for any info.