Thanks Yankee Jim , No I was just kidding about not wanting to move up. I am sure he will get his average down again reasonably soon. He and I play every day and have a good rivalry going, usually stay very close. Some days I kick his butt. lol. and others he kicks mine. We play a lot of alternate shot games and they of course have no effect on our averages. Unfortunately we get a lot of disconnects that really tick me off and it is not our internet connections, they are both strong,so I don't know what the problem is. Also when my brother ( Harely ) plays in the Alternate shot, only he can start the game, because if anyone else tries he is unable to accept at his end. Try to explain that one if you can.