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Mon, Mar 27 2017 10:07 AM (7 replies)
  • etay0330
    3 Posts
    Thu, Mar 9 2017 4:02 PM

    This is my first post. I'm pretty sure most of you are tired of 'Just tell me what to buy' posts but I'd love some opinions here if you can spare a few moments.

    First of all, I don't get to do any surveys so the only way I can get credits is by watching a lot of videos. I'm not sure of the reasons but I usually only get to watch less than 5 videos and will run out of videos to watch. Therefore it's very hard for me to get credits so budget is a big concern for me.

    I've probably progressed too fast and it feels like my skill level is not indicative of where I am in the game. I haven't mapped any of my clubs since I'm still using mostly starter sets. The only club I've bought that I've used a lot is the 3w and I've just recently purchased the R1 TM driver that comes highly recommended by you guys. The next purchases that I know for sure I will do is the L59 Ping irons.

    1. The wedges are the part of my equipment that I have no idea how to proceed with. Since budget is a big concern so all Clevelands are pretty much out of my price range. I'm a tour pro at level 48 at the moment. I've never used any 'good' wedges so I'm not sure what to expect. I think my realistic options are TM L38-39 ATV wedges or L50-52 Max Spin wedges. 

    My biggest concern is, even though the TM wedges are almost half the cost of the Max Spin wedges, can they last long enough for me to use all the way to the legends level? There seem to be a few people who thinks very highly of the Max Spin wedges and if they last longer than the TM I might choose them instead of the cheaper TM ATV options.

    2. When it comes to the putters I think I'll just get the L55 Daytona Rossa, which seem to be the best bang for the buck option. 

    3. Because of my budget I won't be splashing out for balls at the moment. I'll probably stick with the starters or at best GI2-S or Tour-SD.

    I rarely ding the meter as well, not sure if that will affect my choices.

    Here's probably a more important question though. I've looked up people who does well in the tournament leader boards. I've noticed that some are still using starter putters, some are using starter wedges, some are using starter irons. Maybe I should just stop spending time and money watching videos and buying clubs, and instead just learn how to play the game properly? Is it possible to shoot well and be competitive in tournaments by using starter clubs?

    Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. I apologize if I've asked any stupid questions. Thank you for your time.

     

  • pmm711
    5,711 Posts
    Thu, Mar 9 2017 8:28 PM

  • alosso
    21,072 Posts
    Thu, Mar 9 2017 9:32 PM

    Welcome to the forum!

    First off, your driver and 3WD are good choices - keep them!

    Also, the Starter putter is quite well - settle your other business before spending here.

    Wedges are a game changer IMHO. These §$%§" Starters don't show any performance, only seasoned players can do well with them. Two short wedges will be a game changer because they deliver on the alternative shots like flops and chips...

    Spacing is paramount (not the loft). Some choose 60 - 80 - 100 yds, I prefer
    50 - 75 - 100. The two short ATV will be a good choice - I still play the 50 yds predecessor, Z Satin.

    Third wedge to replace the Hybrid is due when you select an iron set. This should be premium stuff.

    Any cheap ball will help your dinging - B-ES or Tour-SD to start with. They have limited strokes and get lost, so welcome the cash side of the game.

    This collection will carry you to Legend if you wish, and then some new investment in your pastime may be due.

    In between, you may learn the shots and the routines and the course management to grow with the game.

    Have fun!

  • etay0330
    3 Posts
    Fri, Mar 10 2017 9:35 AM

    Thanks alosso for your help.

    I think I'll go with the ATV option and BES balls and see how things turn out.  I need to learn how to play the game better, learn how to putt and different shots with the wedges. 

     

  • TryPants
    251 Posts
    Sun, Mar 19 2017 7:29 PM

    Recently I went to a new golf shop in the big city. I shopped and studied and finally selected the new clubs I wanted. As I was checking out and getting ready to pay, the cashier said, "Strip down, facing me".

    Not sure what was going on and not being used to the big city ways, I did as she asked.

    When the hysterical shrieking and alarms finally subsided, I found out she was referring to how I should place my credit card in the card reader.

    ...  ...

    Best of luck with your game.

    And make sure to keep it fun.. that's rule number one in my book. :)

  • SimonTheBeetle
    3,645 Posts
    Mon, Mar 20 2017 12:19 PM

    Hey etay0330, welcome to the WGT land.

    Alosso, our forum man already gave a good answer to you. :-)

    If you allow me to add some more...

    etay0330:
    First of all, I don't get to do any surveys so the only way I can get credits is by watching a lot of videos. I'm not sure of the reasons but I usually only get to watch less than 5 videos and will run out of videos to watch. Therefore it's very hard for me to get credits so budget is a big concern for me.

    Yeah, I know... It sucks, doesn't it? For players like you and me living in a non-American soil, it is darn hard to get free credits and purchase decent equipment with them. So here is what I do. Basically two things : 1) I spend some money on the game in a monthly basis. The amount I spend varies depending on the need at the time, but it doesn't exceed USD 100, usually around 20-50 bucks. I guess it's quite reasonable for a hobby I enjoy and in comparison to other hobbies, I think it is very cheap ; 2) I don't know if you're a PC or mobile player, but I'm sure you have a smartphone. Install the WGT app to your phone and you may earn more free credits by watching videos from there. The only problem with this option is that it's not really reliable, too much variations with timing and regions. Here in Seoul, sometimes (very seldom) I get lots of videos all at once and other times (vast majority of times) I get just a few. I don't know about your region, though... You may get better luck than I do.

    etay0330:
    I've probably progressed too fast and it feels like my skill level is not indicative of where I am in the game. I haven't mapped any of my clubs since I'm still using mostly starter sets.

    With starter clubs and ball (aka 'stone'), you don't need to map anything right now 'cause it simply won't stop... just rolling and rolling and rolling. Greens will dictate the distance, not you with starter sets. Mapping comes in when you get your ultimate (favourite) clubs and ball, finding the true distance of the combiantion. Focus more on learning (I guess you already know pretty well) effects of winds, up/down hills, green contours/undulations, green speed. Take notes of certain holes as the indicated distances do not always match with the actual ones.

    etay0330:
    The only club I've bought that I've used a lot is the 3w and I've just recently purchased the R1 TM driver that comes highly recommended by you guys. The next purchases that I know for sure I will do is the L59 Ping irons.

    Not a bad choice. One thing useful to remember is no matter which clubs you play with, try to match them with the same meter speed. From what I've experienced, this is extremely important if you want to play consistantly well.

    Regarding the wedges, Alosso has well explained, but I really suggest you consider Cleveland 588 series. They are what I have and I don't regret keeping them in my bag. And these are what many high-level players play with. Actually I once asked a similar question here when I was a newbie. It might be helpful to you as well.

    etay0330:
    2. When it comes to the putters I think I'll just get the L55 Daytona Rossa, which seem to be the best bang for the buck option.

    First, ask yourself what type of putter you are. I mean... Are you a ding putter or a miss-ding putter? If you are the former, you should go for Odyssey Versa #1 Black Putter (L70+). From where you are, level 70 isn't really far away to reach so I suggest you hold on. Versa #1 Black Putter is the one that will serve you all the way up to L96 throughout your legend, tour legend and champion tiers and this putter with great balance will remain effective even on icy greens you will see from legend tier. Just take a look at the top players below L96 (even above) and see yourself how many of them still use it. There should be a reason why, eh?

    etay0330:
    3. Because of my budget I won't be splashing out for balls at the moment. I'll probably stick with the starters or at best GI2-S or Tour-SD.

    Stick with the stone until you reach legend tier. I only played with the starter ball up to tour master and never felt the need of better balls. Starting from legend tier though, some par-4s become unreachable in two and greens get concrete hard so the stone will not stop only with the spin rate from your club. That's when you need advanced balls.

    etay0330:
    I rarely ding the meter as well, not sure if that will affect my choices.

    Whether you like it or not, you really gotta work on dinging. This is the essence of the game. I'm not saying I ding all the time, but trying so, I end up being very close to it, minimizing the margin of error for both direction-wise and distance-wise. FIrst of all, you've got to figure out your tendancy. I bet over 9 out of 10 times, you will hit late so try to draw an imaginary line in front (on the left) of the actual ding line as much as you miss on the right side. It works very well for me.

    etay0330:
    Here's probably a more important question though. I've looked up people who does well in the tournament leader boards. I've noticed that some are still using starter putters, some are using starter wedges, some are using starter irons. Maybe I should just stop spending time and money watching videos and buying clubs, and instead just learn how to play the game properly? Is it possible to shoot well and be competitive in tournaments by using starter clubs?

    Some players like myself fill the bag with the starter clubs after playing at the end of the day so don't get fooled by that! Why do I do it? It's a kind of ritual thing for me refreshing everything by setting them in a default mode... I know it's silly, but as long as I feel stable and satisfied, why not?

    So far, I've never met a single player who can shoot super low and be competitive in tournaments by using starter clubs. I'm not saying there's none, just that I've never witnessed one (yet).

    etay0330:
    Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. I apologize if I've asked any stupid questions. Thank you for your time.

    This shows that you're from my neighbourhood, SE Asia. Being humble and apologizing for nothing. :-) There is no such thing as a stupid question if it's sincere. Better to ask now than to stay ignorant and make stupid mistakes.

    Cheers!

    Simon

  • etay0330
    3 Posts
    Mon, Mar 27 2017 9:29 AM

    Thank you Simon for your reply. 

    Yes it's very hard for me to get credits. I use only my mobile phone to watch videos. There's none available to me on PC at all. I've bought 2 ATV wedges and the only thing i need to change is the L59 Ping irons. After that I'll see how long I'll keep playing the game. I can imagine at your level you probably spend 1k credit a week on balls alone if you play a lot. I'm not sure if i'm willing to keep paying money for this game.

    By the way, I think mapping your clubs can be quite expensive right? You still lose hits on your balls by taking mulligans in practice mode don't you? 

     

     

  • ZioMio
    4,680 Posts
    Mon, Mar 27 2017 10:07 AM

    etay0330:
    You still lose hits on your balls by taking mulligans in practice mode don't you? 

    Yes

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