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Mon, May 2 2011 10:31 AM (16 replies)
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  • StaticPappy
    46 Posts
    Thu, Apr 28 2011 5:25 PM

    Like to take a minute to say hello and welcome to TruGolf by WGT.

    If your a new member feel free to introduce your selves to our downgraded community.

    For all the old members a public alert to take notice. Fueled by greed and greens fee profits the trugolf partnership has consumed the first piece of our beautiful game.

    Please direct your attention to the CTTH courses, Here we find the ability to select trugolf "yes or no" has been permanently "by all appearances" set to yes only.

    I have only been playing a month an so wish I had found it sooner. Seems the downgrade from HD to PS2 has begun. I have worked so hard to unlock better equipment and now I am afraid to invest. Afraid the investments in equipment I've already made could go to waste.

    For now I plan to sit tight and play whats left of the HD WGT I invested in. Not sure where this ride is going so I've mapped the emergency exits while holding high hopes that WGT will safely land rather than crash.

    Peace clams

  • SgtDoodles
    3,112 Posts
    Fri, Apr 29 2011 6:41 AM

    Are you stupid or what man, TruGolf courses are optional.

  • canuck1056
    3,172 Posts
    Sat, Apr 30 2011 6:38 AM

    Here is some food for thought . Maybe just maybe Wgt is getting ready to come out of Beta and the Trugolf courses will be the free ones and we will need to pay for the HD ones , just thinking out loud

  • Soulcatcher
    1,970 Posts
    Sat, Apr 30 2011 7:06 AM

    canuck1056:

    Here is some food for thought . Maybe just maybe Wgt is getting ready to come out of Beta and the Trugolf courses will be the free ones and we will need to pay for the HD ones , just thinking out loud

    This has already been answered.... Here is the post by MisterWGT

     

     

    Greetings everyone!

    This is Chad Nelson (aka MisterWGT). I’m the co-founder and president of WGT. I wanted to thank everyone for caring so much to post about this topic. It means a lot to us and we’re reading each and every comment closely.

    Don’t worry, we haven’t lost our minds. We’re definitely focused on delivering you the best possible virtual golf experience!

    I first want to assure you that WGT will continue to produce high-quality photographic courses and offer them free of charge. That’s what we’re all about. This year, we’ve already added Harbour Town and Hilversumsche closest-to-the-hole, as well as Congressional (full 18 in May) and Royal St Georges (full 18 in June) full-stroke courses.  Our relationship with the USGA and R&A is built around a goal to present these amazing and challenging courses to the widest global audience possible.

    The new TruGolf courses are a new option to help address all the requests for more courses than WGT is able to produce on its own. The development of these courses is done by the TruGolf team and we’ve worked very closely to match the game experience, physics and equipment performance. We can now add TruGolf courses quickly and Cabo del Sol will be the first of several new courses in the coming months. Naturally, there will be improvements to the technology and aesthetics based on your feedback. For example, we’re not satisfied with the appearance of the sand and 2nd-cut rough but didn’t want that to hold-up making the courses available.

    Because TruGolf courses are developed externally, WGT does need to charge a fee to play a TruGolf course. However, TruGolf has agreed not to charge for the closest-to-the-hole game, so WGT players can try and play any new TruGolf course for 0 credits and see what you think first.

    It’s important to remember that like any business, we do need to pay the bills and our passionate and hard-working staff who all contribute to this product. We’re doing that primarily by offering optional virtual equipment upgrades and with sponsor advertising campaigns. We’re trying to work with sponsors that tie to the game, like Callaway, Cleveland, PING and TaylorMade, and brands that want to run virtual tournaments with great prizes, like Dove, Golf Digest, Ketel One, USGA and R&A. Your support of those sponsors is appreciated as it makes it possible for us to grow the business and invest in the game.

    Hopefully, our long-time players have seen that we really do listen closely and make changes based on feedback, so we’ll continue doing that, and I sincerely hope you continue to enjoy the game. Please invite me to play a game (MisterWGT) next time we’re both online together.

    Cheers!

    - Chad

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Sat, Apr 30 2011 7:13 AM

    LMAO. With tongue firmly planted in cheek, the OP cleverly disguised his valid complaints. Much better than "cartoon golf sucks."

    Well done, SP, you have points and I got a smile.   :-)

  • StaticPappy
    46 Posts
    Sat, Apr 30 2011 2:50 PM

     

    Soulcatcher if you want to accept that as an answer that's fine. But let me point out the problems again that you obviously don't see. If you see them and dont care then why would you bother?

    Soulcatcher:
    Don’t worry, we haven’t lost our minds. We’re definitely focused on delivering you the best possible virtual golf experience!

    If you notice the HD is now missing. WHY? I feel its because the HD that I have chosen to invest my TIME and MONEY into is now or soon will be GONE.

    Yes like you I had to sign the agreement. It clearly says WGT has right to change anything at anytime and we have no rights at all. This is a standard thing and we all sign. 

    I assumed that change anything did not mean that the HD game would be downgraded to XD. Small changes are constantly needed and accepted as normal.

    Bottom line is I invested in a HD simulator and anything NOT HD is frankly violation of trust. 

    Soulcatcher:
    This year, we’ve already added Harbour Town and Hilversumsche closest-to-the-hole,

    Yes they did. But now these are as are the other CTTH courses trugolf only. Yes thats right all CTTH an Blitz courses are trugolf and not HD. 

    Even our beautiful Beth St. Andy etc. courses are trugolf only for playing CTTH an Blitz.

    Soulcatcher:
    as well as Congressional (full 18 in May) and Royal St Georges (full 18 in June) full-stroke courses.

    These are coming but are they HD? At this point I seriously doubt it. Why?

    Because it appears to me that they are doing the old switch a roo... As in they are flipping courses 1 at a time till they are all XD an not HD. Then any new courses you see in XD will look the same. This is a good plan and will fool all but those who play daily.

    Soulcatcher:
    The new TruGolf courses are a new option to help address all the requests for more courses than WGT is able to produce on its own.

    Well i think we were asking for more HD courses. I feel that trugolf is that other online golf game. As such it has no place sitting next to HD. 

    If WGT is reading then do this. Add all the non HD in a separate area. Having  this crap blended as if there no difference is why I NO LONGER ask any of my friends to play here.

    Before trugolfs cartoons show up I was telling everyone I knew that they just had to experience the best online HD golf simulator. I no longer feel any investment in this company is justified and therefore would not recommend it.

    Really hope that changes as I need a new putter and irons but till this goes one way or another I cant see dropping any more cash here. If i have to settle for low quality I can get that from elsewhere with fewer hassles. And cheaper too. 

    Soulcatcher:
    Because TruGolf courses are developed externally, WGT does need to charge a fee to play a TruGolf course. However, TruGolf has agreed not to charge for the closest-to-the-hole game, so WGT players can try and play any new TruGolf course for 0 credits and see what you think first.

    This adds even more questions for me. But first a lil disclaimer. If i owned the servers I would impose a green fee on new HD courses. Maybe even 100cr for first month. next month 50 an so on till it was free.

    This does 2 VERY important things for the company. First off the fees would go a long way toward paying for development of the new course and the next new one in the works. If this had been done before then maybe now WGT would not be forced to settle for second best under financial stress.

    Secondly it prevents server OVERLOAD. If cabo was free everyone would be playing it to death... well death of a server lol. People want to see the new thing even if it's crap. Proven by the fact that many have paid more than once to play XD CaboWabo.

    Now the BIG question that statement begs to be asked. Am I playing CaboWabo an CTTH an Blitz on WGT servers or TruGolf's?

    Soulcatcher:
    The development of these courses is done by the TruGolf team and we’ve worked very closely to match the game experience, physics and equipment performance.

    Even bigger question here. What engine are we playing on. I see clearly that the images we play in are going to XD. So what about the underbelly of the WGT beast?

    Are we playing on the trugolf engine? NO? I dont get why TRU needs to work on our equipment an such if all they are doing is painting the picture?

    Truth would be that your equipment is being changed to match the trugolf engine. They are working hard to make the WGT experience match that of trugolf.

    Soulcatcher:
    Hopefully, our long-time players have seen that we really do listen closely and make changes based on feedback, so we’ll continue doing that, and I sincerely hope you continue to enjoy the game.

    Been here a month almost so i'm hoping that they listen to the new members as well. Also hoping that WGT continues to bring online golf to us all in the HD that we have come to love and expect.

    Soulcatcher:
    Please invite me to play a game (MisterWGT) next time we’re both online together.

    I have marked the page and will see if this is a real invite. I so do like hearing stuff right from the horses mouth.. lol. He is only as master. Slightly disappointed he's not a legend. Would have just guessed a 5 yr member who co-founded the game would be more...

    LEGENDARY

    But maybe that means I can woop'em lol. Ok that all for me. Off to play the HD courses before they go away too.

    Peace clams

     

  • Snaike
    3,678 Posts
    Sat, Apr 30 2011 11:05 PM

    TL;DR....

    Faterson, is that you?

    I will say one thing.. MrWGT does play, all you have to do is invite him.  He's a "Master" because he has other things to do (like try and find new and exciting ways to take your money!) than to play golf online all day.  Remember, he gets to play these courses for fun while he's working.

    Tough job.  Where do I sign up.  =)

  • StaticPappy
    46 Posts
    Sat, Apr 30 2011 11:47 PM

    OK.. two things otherwise I've said my piece.

    1st. Out of all that your only concern is my wondering aloud my thought of all founding members as it were would be legends of the game in all senses. At this point in my avatars career I am coasting up lvls but not wanting to change tier yet. And I fully see that by the time I want to tier up that master would be the most fun place to stop. It is possible to be legendary without a big badge that says you are... right.

    Second I don't like the bum implication. I do that thing I do for money from a keyboard so....

    peace clam

  • Snaike
    3,678 Posts
    Sun, May 1 2011 4:00 AM

    StaticPappy:
    Second I don't like the bum implication. I do that thing I do for money from a keyboard so....
    You know, StaticPuppy, I'm still trying to figure which post to which you are responding.

    If it's mine, then I have no idea where you would gather that I inferred anything about being a bum... my "Tough Job" was in direct reference to Mr. Chad Nelson's (aka MrWGT) job.  You know.. playing the best courses for fun and calling it 'work'.

    And the "Faterson" reference is an old school throwback to really long-winded posts such as yours.

    There are two pieces of advice I would like to give you... actually three:

    1) use the quote feature so we know to which you're referring

    2) try not to take everything so personal, and 

    3) "Lighten up, Francis."

                          

  • Pecep
    9 Posts
    Sun, May 1 2011 7:14 AM

    I am badly stressed right now ,, not being able to log into wgt using my name Pecep as the login good will not load. I have tried everything and am running out of patience. This is done via facebook.

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