just played back nine, haven't played front yet, my impressions are, greens well protected, with narrow fairways, (bethpage), hillside greens, everything plays long, (oakmont), medium winds everywhere!, mostly in the face, (St. A), great water hole, (kiawa #17.)., something for everyone? I LIKE IT, I WANT SOME MORE, PLEASE! take your time, do it right, i'll just be finished learning this course (year-year and a half) when you will have the next one ready. sounds like a plan to me. my satisfied nickles worth, and thank you for making it real.....