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The new Cleveland 64°

• Infinito3010 3,689 Posts

  Thu, Jun 9 2011 7:39 PM

  YankeeJim is quite right.  Use default spin and you'll see the difference on full shots.  Experiment with b/s on flop shots.  Sometimes use t/s other times use b/s.  If I have an uphill flop with this wedge use t/s.  I spent two  hours hitting the wedge up and down the first fairway on Kiawah under low wind conditions.  Experiment with it on CTTH or hit the ball on the green then putt it off.  Use the wedge to become accustom to it.  It is awesome.

  Also I would like to add, I rented the club first for a day, and I found the club excellent out of the rough as well.

• chrisironsbones 3,524 Posts

  Fri, Jun 10 2011 4:19 AM

  YankeeJim:

  I was just surprised you gave away the precision for forgiveness.  ;-)

  The pings are LESS forgiving, so i'm giving up both..LOL, but to be honest, there's a nagging feeling at the back of my mind that keeps telling me to carry on with the clevelands, having spent $27 on them LOL.  I might do what infinito says and knock the 60 yarder around the green so i know how much power to give, i.e 50% meter on zatin 64° is roughly 23 yards, i need to find out 50% for cleveland, then i'll have something to work on.  But i sure will miss the 13 yard pitch.

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Fri, Jun 10 2011 4:56 AM

  chrisironsbones:

  50% meter on zatin 64 degree is roughly 23 yards, i need to find out 50% for cleveland, then i'll have something to work on.  But i sure will miss the 13 yard pitch.

  If you're just going to replace your wedges with these and continue shooting the same way I could see where you'd be disappointed. Something that is radically different with these wedges is not only the accuracy BUT the spin control. You can pretty much stop them wherever you want with the different shots.

  For instance, measuring your full swing to get to 23 yards is a guess. You said it yourself-"roughly." Well the CG 80 flops 29, 26 with full backspin, and stops!! No guessing and you're taking full swings, always better than choking 50%. It also pitches a very mappable and controllable 25 and stops! You get the idea.

  You and DarSum use the same technique-partial full swings with the full shot. You both do well with it but I really think you're both short suiting yourselves by eschewing consistent use of the other 4 shots. These wedges will let you control the end result much easier and more accurately if you commit to using the other shots. It's very easy to get complacent with something comfortable and resist change but this change is really worth it. You'll find yourself holing out a lot more chips and pitches if you do.

  LOL-Look up Sycko. We hacked around 9 holes twice  while I showed her how to use the chip and pitch shots (she used the partial full swing too) and I think it was about the 5th or 6th shot she actually holed a pitch. She was sold.   ;-)

• chrisironsbones 3,524 Posts

  Fri, Jun 10 2011 5:19 AM

  I was playing well in Open qualifier in St George, was -5 for front 9, but i birdied 10,11,12 & 13 and was on a roll.  I read the hole description for par 5, 14 as i hadn't played full round here before.  The description went on to say 22 people had scored 7 or higher on this hole in 93 open.  I thought, yeah right, par 5 birdie as usuall. I sliced drive landed in weeds, lost ball, i landed on fringe 7 yards from hole, i decided to putt, but my 18 foot power on putt went 30 feet past, was like a spring in the fringe, there you have it, the description was spot on, a SEVEN LOL.

  Anyway, check this out for recovery next hole:

  POSITIVE DEVIATION LOL

  was going to quit after my -9 went down to -7, but don't get that often to spring strait back to -9...the golfing gods are favouring me today lol

• 6packmike 235 Posts

  Fri, Jun 10 2011 6:35 AM

  When I see a pro golfer stop the ball by the pin out of the trap in front of SA's #13 green right pin, I'll believe WGT hasn't tiger woods twoed up this game with this club.

• nellyg 402 Posts

  Sat, Jun 11 2011 12:40 AM

  I've actually dropped the 80 yard cleveland and am carrying both the new one and the satin. Reason I've done it is I didn't like the gap from 7 yard chip to 17 yard pitch. Leaves me with far less choked shots.

  The gap from 84 punch on the 100 yard cleveland to 60 is not ideal but think it's worth it for the 13 pitch and 15 flop around the green. A bit more practice may well mean it goes back in my bag and dropping the satin but in the interim I think it's a good option.

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Sat, Jun 11 2011 5:24 AM

  nellyg:

  The gap from 84 punch on the 100 yard cleveland to 60 is not ideal but think it's worth it for the 13 pitch and 15 flop around the green.

  The TM set PW punches 108 and covers up to 116 with top spin. This lets you drop the 115 CG so you could carry the 80CG (which punches 68.) I found that the number of times you need that 115 club is minimal as opposed to the number of times you'll use the 80.

  The 17 yard pitch is very accurate with partial swings and spin so the need for the 13 yard pitch isn't a big problem. The CG 100,80 and the Satin 64 is a great combo if you don't like the CG64.

• chrisironsbones 3,524 Posts

  Sat, Jun 11 2011 6:28 AM

  YankeeJim:

  The TM set PW punches 108 and covers up to 116 with top spin. This lets you drop the 115 CG so you could carry the 80CG (which punches 68.) I found that the number of times you need that 115 club is minimal as opposed to the number of times you'll use the 80.

  Playing St George's i found the opposite, need 115 more than 80, probably horses for courses as they say.  Any way, i was thinking the same about missing the 13 yard pitch, but a few more practice swings 3/4 of power on 64° cleveland and its getting there, but as Nellyg mentioned, i also dislike choking shots, more unpredictable.

   

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Sat, Jun 11 2011 3:28 PM

  chrisironsbones:

  but as Nellyg mentioned, i also dislike choking shots, more unpredictable.

  Yes it is, with clubs that have less precision. Not the case with these monsters.  :-)

• Heisman12 102 Posts

  Tue, Jun 14 2011 12:42 PM

  chrisironsbones:

  Playing St George's i found the opposite, need 115 more than 80, probably horses for courses as they say

  I don't know about St. George's, as I haven't played it enough yet to see a pattern, but I certainly have found myself hitting a lot of 115 yard shots at Congressional (often on #1).  I'm playing with the CG 80, 100, and TM irons, so I have that gap from 100-125.  I've had to learn to control my punch shots with topspin, and I'm finally at the point where the distance gap isn't an issue.....but I had to practice it alot to get it down.

  Back to the topic of this thread: I haven't purchased the new CG 64 yet, and am still playing with my Satin.  I am considering making the switch. simply because I have found my other CG clubs to easily be the most accurate clubs this game has to offer.  Of course, I use a lot less backspin than most, so I don't run into that problem.  The sweetest shot in this game is using a bit of topspin with a CG and watching the ball land softly....and trickle into the hole.

  Beyond that, I pretty much agree with everythign YankeeJim has said on this thread......although I will miss (as someone alluded to earlier) the 13 yard pitch.  I'll probably make the switch tomorrow if I have time to play a bit.