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*** Update - re Nike Balls ***

• Robert1893 7,729 Posts

  Mon, Apr 9 2018 5:43 AM

  DAZZA501:

  It would make playing longer shots tough again instead of stopping a 3 wood or 3 iron dead. We shouldn't be able to backspin a 3 wood. Simple as that.

  
  
  I understand the effect it would have by using lower-level or starter balls. What I'm asking is why is that important?
  

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Mon, Apr 9 2018 6:17 AM

  Robert1893:

  I understand the effect it would have by using lower-level or starter balls. What I'm asking is why is that important?

  Because it would inject more realism into the game and steer it away from the TWO-ish route it has taken.

• Robert1893 7,729 Posts

  Mon, Apr 9 2018 6:37 AM

  YankeeJim:

  Because it would inject more realism into the game and steer it away from the TWO-ish route it has taken.

  
  
  Fair enough.
  
  But then why not make other changes as well? For example, I'm only a halfway decent player, but my accuracy off the tee is 90%. That has to be well above the best PGA player. Shouldn't we have drivers with less accuracy?
  
  This is just one example. I'm sure there are other examples.  
  
  And still, the question stands: why is that important? Why is it important that the game have an added injection of realism? Personally, I like the balance it currently has between some realism and a lot of fun.
  
  Between the two, I think it's more important for it to be fun to play than it has these added measures of realism. And the reason is twofold. First, there will always be aspects of WGT that are unrealistic. And second, I have enough realism in the rest of my life. I need a place that is a bit unrealistic and a lot of fun. In other words, I need my "safe place." :-) 
  
  That's just my 2 cents. Obviously, others will have a different take and will think other aspects of the game are more important. And that's fine. 

• Luckystar5 1,641 Posts

  Mon, Apr 9 2018 7:04 AM

  I'll see your 2 cents, and raise you my dime!   Realism?  Has way too many forgotten, that this is a "computer game"?  If I wanted realism, there is a golf course, less than one mile from my home.  After a disappointing round, there, I come home, play on here, and it gives me the want to go back out, and try again. I, too, have way too much Realism in my life. 

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Mon, Apr 9 2018 7:23 AM

  Robert1893:

  But then why not make other changes as well?

  The whole realism effect has been argued from the beginning. The first VUSO at BPB was extremely realistic when you looked at the leaderboards IF you added 10 strokes to all the scores. At the time, TWO was still in existence and compared to that, WGT was actually pretty realistic. 

  Since then, the nature of a for-profit endeavor has eclipsed  the realism factor and appeals now to the ego-the basic gotta have it right away ego. For the true golfer, a simple change like not replacing the Nikes would require more of the golfer mentality than that of the gaming crowd to succeed.. One would be forced to play the game golf smart instead of off a spreadsheet program.

  It will never happen but it would be nice to see.  :-)

• Luckystar5 1,641 Posts

  Mon, Apr 9 2018 7:53 AM

  Realism? In reality, someone who has never swung a club before, can go to a pro shop and spend thousands of dollars on the best equipment. The best balls, clubs, shoes etc. It isn't going to make him a better golfer right away. So throwing reality into this game would eliminate the need for levels, you could get the best clubs, and balls right off the git go. Wgt, would lose money, in the purchases, that come along the way, with leveling up. If you want reality, you'll have to go all the way.  You can't just pick and choose certain things and call it reality. 

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Mon, Apr 9 2018 7:57 AM

  That's a weak equipment argument. This is about how the game is being played today  by the best.

• Luckystar5 1,641 Posts

  Mon, Apr 9 2018 8:00 AM

  Then why is the topic all about the removal of Nike balls?  Removing them would make the game more realistic?  

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Mon, Apr 9 2018 8:08 AM

  Luckystar5:

  Then why is the topic all about the removal of Nike balls?  Removing them would make the game more realistic?  

   

  You apparently missed the point. Take away that ability to stick a 3W because the ball is so good and the game gets closer to realistic, not that it's ever going to get totally there. Oddly enough, that exact same ball argument as it relates to distance is getting tossed around by real golfers.

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