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12 hour wait for Ready Go's - Excessive

• ForrestLeigh 264 Posts

  Tue, Jul 5 2011 1:37 AM

  Wondering why the RG's have a 12 hour wait once filled

  I know that people join and then don't play, though I can't see why - there will always be a RG for you, the only time there won't is when you have played and its still ongoing or closed but not everyone has posted.  Once everyone has posted or the clock has run its 12 hours then it will appear again for you to play.  Signing up for St Andrews front in the morning then going to work in case its full when you get home isn't the case, unless you've played there will always be one available for you.

  The only advantage I can see is that if you don't play after registering you can see the leaderboard once its full - but what advantage is that?  Does it make you play better to know that you need a certain score to win/get credits. If you check the previous scores in closed tournaments you will get a good idea of whats needed

  If everyone played when they signed up the turnover would be much better - if you like playing ST Andrews front for example you could do this two or three times in the day, instead of once because players sign up then wait up to the end of the day to play

  I would propose that the 12 hours is cut to 3 hours, this would give a better turnover and would allow for those times when you expect to play, have signed up but have to leave for a while.

• WGTicon 12,511 Posts

  Tue, Jul 5 2011 3:26 AM

  Hi

  I believe the main advantage is when you get home, you can finish one you signed for in the morning and then do next one soon after. This was you can double dip without waiting.

  I think 12 hours works fine and there are at least 15 ready go's out there to do, which should keep anyone busy. I know this because in the old days with less ready go's, I did same double dipping and often did 13-15 of them a day. Now, you can probably get to 30 a day if you really tried.

  -wgticon

• ForrestLeigh 264 Posts

  Tue, Jul 5 2011 6:44 AM

  WGTicon:

  Hi

  I believe the main advantage is when you get home, you can finish one you signed for in the morning and then do next one soon after. This was you can double dip without waiting.

  I think 12 hours works fine and there are at least 15 ready go's out there to do, which should keep anyone busy. I know this because in the old days with less ready go's, I did same double dipping and often did 13-15 of them a day. Now, you can probably get to 30 a day if you really tried.

  -wgticon

  I see your point, but it does not really work like that - if I sign up for one at seven thirty when I leave for work it might take till eleven that morning to fill up - so even if I get home at six then if there are players who have signed up but not played I'd have to wait till 11 that night when the 12 hour period expires.

  If everyone played when they signed up or within my suggested 3 hours you would get more turnover, more revenue for WGT and more chances to play

   

• WGTicon 12,511 Posts

  Tue, Jul 5 2011 10:54 AM

  ForrestLeigh:

  WGTicon:

  Hi

  I believe the main advantage is when you get home, you can finish one you signed for in the morning and then do next one soon after. This was you can double dip without waiting.

  I think 12 hours works fine and there are at least 15 ready go's out there to do, which should keep anyone busy. I know this because in the old days with less ready go's, I did same double dipping and often did 13-15 of them a day. Now, you can probably get to 30 a day if you really tried.

  -wgticon

   

  I see your point, but it does not really work like that - if I sign up for one at seven thirty when I leave for work it might take till eleven that morning to fill up - so even if I get home at six then if there are players who have signed up but not played I'd have to wait till 11 that night when the 12 hour period expires.

  If everyone played when they signed up or within my suggested 3 hours you would get more turnover, more revenue for WGT and more chances to play

   

  I hear ya.... I am just not sure if it will happen. It used to be 24 hours :)

  Are you saying you are able to do 15+ rg's in 3 hours and then waiting for new set?

  -wgticon

• ForrestLeigh 264 Posts

  Tue, Jul 5 2011 11:48 PM

  WGTicon:

  ForrestLeigh:

  WGTicon:

  Hi

  I believe the main advantage is when you get home, you can finish one you signed for in the morning and then do next one soon after. This was you can double dip without waiting.

  I think 12 hours works fine and there are at least 15 ready go's out there to do, which should keep anyone busy. I know this because in the old days with less ready go's, I did same double dipping and often did 13-15 of them a day. Now, you can probably get to 30 a day if you really tried.

  -wgticon

   

  I see your point, but it does not really work like that - if I sign up for one at seven thirty when I leave for work it might take till eleven that morning to fill up - so even if I get home at six then if there are players who have signed up but not played I'd have to wait till 11 that night when the 12 hour period expires.

  If everyone played when they signed up or within my suggested 3 hours you would get more turnover, more revenue for WGT and more chances to play

   

   

  I hear ya.... I am just not sure if it will happen. It used to be 24 hours :)

  Are you saying you are able to do 15+ rg's in 3 hours and then waiting for new set?

  -wgticon

  No thats probably a bit excessive :) - but the original arguement still stands imo, 12 hours just means players can enter then not bother doing anything, and my original post was Why?  If you're ready to play then enter and play, if not don't enter.

  Take the St Andrews front 9 RG on at the moment, I played this yesterday at about seven PM, it was nearly 40 places complete, now the following morning 1 hour 20 mins to go and waiting for one player to post.  Again - Why? they must have signed up before 9pm last night but didn't play.

  All this means is that for the other 49 players this RG won't re-appear till they finally decide to play and post or don't play at all and the 12 hour expires.

  3 hours would give everyone time to sign up and play and a better rotation - what do you at WGT see as the benefit of 12 hours?

• WGTicon 12,511 Posts

  Wed, Jul 6 2011 12:51 AM

  I hear ya, but we have to allow for certain time to complete the round. For example: say you register for that you plan to play right now but something comes up. with 3 hour window. the person is unlikely to finish it.

  I understand what you are asking but many different people play different; some play at home, some at work, some during travel and so on.

  In past, when we have 5-6 ready go's tops, it may have made sense, but with at least 15 available, there is no excuse.

  I also know that some folks like to play sta front 9 only or maybe with some other course. In past, some folks really disliked kia front 9 with heavy winds/champ greens or bp 18 with very slow greens.

  I have always stated that by being picky and choosy, you will never become complete player and practice/friendly round rarely has same prohibitive value as a rg, when there is something on the line. I just played a round with a friend few hrs ago, he said he did this course (rsg back 9), and had 4 birdies and an eagle. In my round be barely broke par.... I told him that when $ is not on the line, he can't concentrate and he agreed.

  With that said, everyone can play anything they want and how they want but I hope you realize that we feel the 12 hour rule is best for the whole.

  -wgticon

• MBaggese 15,367 Posts

  Wed, Jul 6 2011 1:13 AM

  WGTicon:

  With that said, everyone can play anything they want and how they want but I hope you realize that we feel the 12 hour rule is best for the whole.

   

  I can follow that reasoning, but why not open another RG, once the 50 players have it filled, and make it so only those who have completed the first RG, be allowed to enter the next one?

  I understand the need to play all courses/etc., but seems like a money making oppurtunity for WGT..heck, if there's a group of players who want to do SA front 9 15 times a day, credits would be rolling in.

   

• ForrestLeigh 264 Posts

  Wed, Jul 6 2011 3:37 AM

  MBaggese:

  WGTicon:

  With that said, everyone can play anything they want and how they want but I hope you realize that we feel the 12 hour rule is best for the whole.

   

  I can follow that reasoning, but why not open another RG, once the 50 players have it filled, and make it so only those who have completed the first RG, be allowed to enter the next one?

  I understand the need to play all courses/etc., but seems like a money making oppurtunity for WGT..heck, if there's a group of players who want to do SA front 9 15 times a day, credits would be rolling in.

   

  I agree about the benefits of playing all courses etc - but surely this isn't your call?  This isn't school where you teach us to play golf, or monitor how well we're doing.  Its up to the individual what they do on this site, if someone just enjoys playing Kiawah Front 9 thats their choice surely? and when one or two players sign up and don't play till the last minute thats spoiling their enjoyment of playing their favourite course in the RG, whereas a different format would cater for everyone.

  A 9 hole RG won't take longer than 30 mins - how often does something come up that means you've just signed up to play but then actually can't.

  I think 98%+ of the times the players just sign up with no intention of playing at that time - original post, WHY?  lol

• b0geybuster 2,574 Posts

  Wed, Jul 6 2011 6:17 AM

  What you fail to realize is yes you may get to enter another one right away but so does Bollox, Ahudd, and Jake when they are grinding the RGs, so intsead of seeing their names at top 1 of your RGs every few days, they would be there on every one of them.    

  The 12hrs when grinding is very useful.   I will sign up for ones with 10 players or less before bed, this way I know when I wake up they are closed and if I chose so I am also able to see the leaderboard as well.  

  Many reasons would stop me from playing at any given time.  Bad meter, telephone rings, errands to run etc.    

  Just saying,

  b0gey

• lvietri 3,326 Posts

  Wed, Jul 6 2011 6:32 AM

  I want to know who this "friend" of yours is .. :)