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ACCURACY USING DIFFERENT POWER SCALES?

• Luckystar5 1,641 Posts

  Sat, Aug 4 2018 8:05 AM

  I also tend to agree with you there, that is why I said eariler, that I use the scale that allows me to have the distance I want to hit, in the center of the meter, or as close as possible.  This allows me to do either ding, or off ding, which ever the situation may call for.  But it keeps the shorter distance of meter travel, slower. 

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Sat, Aug 4 2018 9:34 AM

  Luckystar5:

  but what we are saying is that by using the larger putting scale, you will have less of a chance of missing the ding mark.

  You are 100% correct in this, I wasn't lobbying against it. I just want to make sure players understand the drawbacks.

  Luckystar5:

  This in turn will hold your original line.

  Not to sidetrack the topic but this applies when you talk about holding lines--putter balance. This often gets ignored by many and it's important because the better the balance, the more the putt holds the line, particularly on long putts. 

• DoctorLarry 4,322 Posts

  Wed, Aug 8 2018 12:42 AM

  I agree with Jim and mostly use the lowest scale I can get away with on most putts.  Mis-hits are amplified with larger scales.  Of course, I also battle meter speed on all my hits, so it is a compromise between those competing interests.

  It seems to me - and I welcome clarification - that when you are hitting a putt at less than full power, it is better to hit it relatively quickly after pulling the club back, so the area between the mis-ding lines stays as wide as possible.  I used to let them close to their final position, but that also seems to amplify misses.  Is that correct?

• slimjym 141 Posts

  Wed, Aug 8 2018 1:49 PM

  DOC,

  Don't know that you nessarily expected a reply from me, but wanted to comment. Glad I raised the question about scales, as I've received alot of good replies & things to consider from WGT members. Until you mentioned it, I hadn't considered that mis-ding line distance does shorten if delaying hitting the shot. Saw this all the time, but never thought about it until your comment. Definitely a point to consider.

  Think I've also been told by someone that using larger scales are something to consider as the power meter runs slower vs. using a smaller scale? Hadn't noticed this, but will definitely check this out. Anyway I've got quite a bit of new points to experiment with to try to improve my putting. Have a good day. Later Slimjym

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Wed, Aug 8 2018 4:21 PM

  slimjym:

  Think I've also been told by someone that using larger scales are something to consider as the power meter runs slower vs. using a smaller scale?

  Have you ever used avatar moves or are you on the mobile platform?

• slimjym 141 Posts

  Wed, Aug 8 2018 6:03 PM

  Yankee Jim,

  Am not familiar with the term "avatar moves" you're speaking of,, so you got me puzzled on that one? I solely play on my laptop only, no mobile.

• TopShelf2010 10,975 Posts

  Wed, Aug 8 2018 6:30 PM

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• jacktrade51 11,249 Posts

  Wed, Aug 8 2018 7:05 PM

  HackWilson1930:

  The other question that come to my mind is whether the meter speeds up during putting. I have been told that it is a uniform speed while putting but does speed up using other clubs. I have not been able to substantiate  a constant putter speed vs a varying speed as yet.

  I can't remember which WGT… said it, but we have been told that putter meter speed is now constant.  It was not true when I joined.

  That said, if I am looking at an effective 37 foot putt, I will take 20 at 18.5% power over 10 and 37% power any time.  If it is downhill and sliding, your standard calculations do not apply.

  On other shots, not putting, this does not apply.

  Tom.

   

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Thu, Aug 9 2018 5:40 AM

  slimjym:

  Yankee Jim,

  Am not familiar with the term "avatar moves" you're speaking of,, so you got me puzzled on that one? I solely play on my laptop only, no mobile.

  The reason I asked was because the Putting Tips in the FAQs was written way back before Putter Pal came out and it details how to use those movements the avatar makes when putting. It is the only way I have ever putted and I think there are several advantages to it.

  For one, you never take your eyes off the screen when deciding how hard to hit a putt. You only look at the meter AFTER the shot is released and that's to focus on the ding.

  Secondly, the movements are exact reference points that let you assign speed values to each scale. This also makes it seamless to move between the different green speeds.

  Go to a big, flat green like BPB4. On each scale note the distance your putt travels with each move. Be very careful about that move because you need to make sure your're on it exactly. By that I mean don't trust just seeing the move, go past it, back up and cancel the move  and slowly approach it again. Waggle comes to mind when doing this. 

  By way of an example, on my putter--15  30  60  100 150 300--one move on the 15 scale is 8 feet on 13 greens. 2 is 16, 3 is 24, etc. The actual values by scale I use are 8-9-16-20-25-46.

  Adjusting for length becomes a simple matter of that movement or cancelling it. If 1 move on the 15 scale is 8, cancelling that move becomes something less than 8 (you determine what your values are.)

  The correct speed is paramount in putting and those avatar moves let me cover any scenario, all without taking your eyes off the screen. :-)

• slimjym 141 Posts

  Thu, Aug 9 2018 9:33 AM

  I appreciate all the great input from TopShelf, JackTrade, Yankee Jim & all others. Just when I thought I had a grasp on the situation, so many fascinating details have come to light. 

  I will be positively experimenting with these "avatar moves". Additionally I want to closely monitor whether the speed ot my power meter varies when using my DIFFERENT scales. (In my case, 10,20,50,100.150, & 300). I'm sure it does, but need to verify. I understand that from all posts consesus is that putter meter speed is constant when using a given scale (unlike accerlerating when using our clubs). My question though is whether or not the overall meter speed varies when changing scales. In other words, does the power meter move slower when using the 20' scale than it does the 10' scale for example? 

  If the power meter does in fact (?) move slower when using the 20' vs the 10' scale to make an 8 foot put, then it gives creedence to the fact that it would be more advantageous to use the 20' scale in order to achieve slower power meter travel & hopefully make it easier to hit the "ding". Just things I'm thinking about that I will need to work through.