Yiannis1970:
I rest my case. Believe whatever you want.
Does wgt have the capability to manipulate INDIVIDUAL PLAYER'S equipment? The answer is YES, we have the capability to do nearly anything to ANYONE, any course, any time, anywhere.
The above is an interpretation of what Pizza said (I'm not suggesting you said it was a quote) this is a direct copy:
"Does WGT have the capability to manipulate individual player's equipment?" The answer is yes, we have the capability to do nearly anything to anyone, any course, any time, anywhere."
The emphasis being on capability, I think, is important.
and to the rest of the post:
"The next question you should ask is "Does the video game I play operate in such an underhanded way that they would practice this capability?"
The reason I say "the video game I play" and not "WGT" is because I want to make the point that similar companies has similar capabilities to manipulate the environment they produce. Think of any other similar online game you have played. Did you trust them to operate honestly? To provide a level playing field for all players? If you did, I assume you stuck around a while. If you didn't, then I wouldn't blame you for spending your recreational time elsewhere.
This is essentially what this question boils down to - yes, WGT has the power to manipulate the environment and/or clubs and balls they produce. Do you believe us when we say that we don't do so in an individual, unknown, shady deal but rather in a public, across the board manner that affects every player the exact same way? This is for the consumer to decide. We give you our word that we do not abuse the power of VEM, nor do we give our players the capability to do so. What you do with this information is your choice.
I am certain there will still be "conspiracy theorists" out there who believe otherwise, and that is expected and perfectly acceptable. The only problem is when these theories are stated as facts. When someone passionately devotes so much time and effort into mastering a game, it is inevitable that at certain times they will fail when they feel the opposite outcome should have happened. The natural reaction that humans come to when they think they have all their bases covered but still fail is transference."
So as this post is being discussed those believing they are being individually targeted by VEM must answer no to:
“Do you believe us when we say that we don't do so in an individual, unknown, shady deal but rather in a public, across the board manner that affects every player the exact same way?”
And to “We give you our word that we do not abuse the power of VEM, nor do we give our players the capability to do so.” the reply would be something like “I think you’re lying”.
To me that’s absurd, why would he/they say it at all? Never mind go into all the detail, they could just have ignored all the questions being asked. He certainly had no need to suggest people shouldn’t stick around if this was happening, or talk about how this would be an underhand way of operating or mention it would be a shady deal.
I think I’m more often critical than supportive of WGT but I don’t think Pizza (or the others) were telling lies.
I didn’t mean to get back into this, just too opinionated to keep quiet I guess but also a post I’d used to illustrate why I think personal VEM is not in use being used to suggest the opposite. I do completely agree with Yiannis that lines are drawn on this and few if any are likely to cross to the other side. That’s not really much of a reason to fall out though.