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Replacing Balls

• JaLaBar 1,254 Posts

  Mon, Oct 17 2011 11:30 PM

  Howinoshawa:

  Typical where? I have never heard of that before. It may be true on the PGA tour, but I've never seen a problem with this before.

  Actually, on the PGA tour it is a disqualification to hit any ball BUT the type you started the round with.  Most tournaments in clubs also require that you play the same type of ball throughout the round.  I'm certain that there are country clubs where this rule doesn't apply.  However, you have a warning box that comes up when you start your last ball of a type, and if you purchase them when on the course, they will still be added to your usable inventory.

  My solution is to not run out of balls during a round.

• Jerm65 1,413 Posts

  Tue, Oct 18 2011 6:41 AM

  JaLaBar:

  Actually, on the PGA tour it is a disqualification to hit any ball BUT the type you started the round with.

  And your source on this is??

  You have to finish the hole with the same ball you started it with, unless it's deemed lost, or damaged enough to be unplayable.  In those cases it's replaced, either with or without penalty, depending on the situation.  Other than that, you can change the type or brand of your ball between each and every hole if you want, and can even go so far as to borrow a ball from one of your opponents.

  The only restriction I can possibly see on the PGA regarding type of ball, would have nothing to do with USGA rules, and everything to do with losing your sponsorship if you switched brands mid-round.

• TheAceFactor 2,147 Posts

  Tue, Oct 18 2011 7:11 AM

  Jerm65:

  The only restriction I can possibly see on the PGA regarding type of ball, would have nothing to do with USGA rules, and everything to do with losing your sponsorship if you switched brands mid-round.

  LoL...thats a good one.

  The "one ball rule" is used at WGT. Being the tournament committee , they have the right to impose this rule.

   

   http://golf.about.com/cs/rulesofgolf/a/rulefaq_oneball.htm            

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• oilyrag 875 Posts

  Tue, Oct 18 2011 7:28 AM

  Jerm65:

  JaLaBar:

  Actually, on the PGA tour it is a disqualification to hit any ball BUT the type you started the round with.

  And your source on this is??

   

  i must have been here too long, seem to be putting up the same answers :)

   

  it's called the one ball condition

   

  the tournament committee (oh and by the way  - here, the tournament committee is wgt)

  has the right to impose rules on use of balls etc

   

  therefore if wgt say that you can use only one type of ball during the competition then you only use one type of ball, end of story.

   

  think yourself lucky that your allowed to finish a round with the unlimited ball, the alternative is to default on the competition

   

  i put it up before but here it is again

   

  darren clarke getting very lucky not to be penalised under the one ball condition rule (imposed by the euro tour)

   

   

   

   

• TheAceFactor 2,147 Posts

  Tue, Oct 18 2011 7:53 AM

  oilyrag:

  think yourself lucky that your allowed to finish a round with the unlimited ball, the alternative is to default on the competition

  Exactly

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• Howinoshawa 711 Posts

  Tue, Oct 18 2011 8:27 AM

  JaLaBar:

   However, you have a warning box that comes up when you start your last ball of a type, and if you purchase them when on the course, they will still be added to your usable inventory.

  My solution is to not run out of balls during a round.

  Yes...isn't it funny you can buy more Calloways in the middle of the fairway when necessary just like on the tour !...lol ...(if you have enough credits,that is)and isn't it  funny the grips or the club faces never wear out !

  My solution is as I stated.Revert to the next best ball in the bag, because you never know for sure if you have enough of the best ones and you may have already committed to a club tourney before you can afford to buy more Calloways.

• oilyrag 875 Posts

  Tue, Oct 18 2011 8:59 AM

  Howinoshawa:

  .........................My solution is........................................

   

  if there ain't a problem, don't need a solution

   

   

   

  Howinoshawa:

  ........ funny the grips or the club faces never wear out !.............

   

  my avatar never wears out either...... unlike my decrepit body

• Jerm65 1,413 Posts

  Tue, Oct 18 2011 9:02 AM

  oilyrag:

  it's called the one ball condition

  Duly noted.  I guess you learn something new every day (and thanks for today's enlightenment).  I figured there would be "local rules", that possibly imposed this condition, but wasn't aware it applied across the board to Tour events.  Also gotta remember that the USGA and PGA can be mutually exclusive at times.  Whatever the case, thanks for the clarification.

  Of course, up here it's the RCGA, and local rules are more concerned about whether or not a hockey stick qualifies as a putter.....or whether a grizzly bear is considered a hazard or an immovable obstruction (yes, on both counts!).  On the plus side.....it's winter rules year-round....lol

• oilyrag 875 Posts

  Tue, Oct 18 2011 9:25 AM

  oilyrag:

  Howinoshawa:

  .........................My solution is........................................

   

  if there ain't a problem, don't need a solution

   

   

   

   

  it would of course appear to make financial sense if wgt did not impose the one ball condition. after all, better that a ball paid for takes hits and wears out, right?

  well given that they have not chosen that route, there must be a good reason.

  to be able to go to another type of ball is not as easy as you think it looks.

   

  default to the next best ball you say..... so what exactly IS the next best ball?

  "...but I don't want to use that ball...."

  um.... appears you need a logic rule to order the preference of balls

  so we rule out the idea of a default next ball

   

  ok so let's have the user choose the next ball, right?

  this would require user interaction to be programmed, which would hinder multi-player games, and probably for the same reason rule 26 has not been fully implemented.

   

  so they choose the one ball condition, else finish with unlimited balls.

  must be a good reason why.

   

• Howinoshawa 711 Posts

  Tue, Oct 18 2011 9:41 AM

  That's the whole point. Why not default to the balls that were paid for and wear them out first? It would simply be a matter of going in order of what they cost.They are already ranked according to their values in credits.

  ...and believe it or not,I found this out by experience after playing for a year,not by being informed....I'm sure there's a great number of people that aren't aware of this either ; whether they are aware of USGA,PGA,RCGA or whoever else's "rules" or not.

  I will simply now make the suggestion to WGT and thanks to most of you for your input......cheers