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Thu, Sep 14 2023 8:31 AM (6 replies)
  • McBrayer937
    5 Posts
    Sat, Sep 9 2023 6:20 AM

    I am curious as to what are the easiest courses, tournaments and modes to lower my average? Please advise

  • bossbird
    2,232 Posts
    Mon, Sep 11 2023 12:17 AM

    If you lower your average just playing red tees and easy courses , what’s the point? You would be better advised to play the courses set up in all conditions so you actually become a good player. However , Kiawah front 9 , PGA, and wolf creek are all in my opinion score busters if you set up for easy red tees , fast green and low wind. 

  • tnivka
    141 Posts
    Mon, Sep 11 2023 2:17 AM

    I used to think K-I was friendly, but lately she's been as friendly as an ex-wife. If you've got good wedges and a ball that will spin, St Andrews front can be nice. I like PGA front because it seems to have the straightest greens. The problem is that when you play a course with non-cooperative greens, you're gonna get hurt.

    Also, there are some country clubs that offer a variety of tourneys. Some are quite challenging, and others strip the courses of their defenses.  Good luck.

  • SamSpayed
    5,021 Posts
    Mon, Sep 11 2023 7:40 AM

    McBrayer937:

    I am curious as to what are the easiest courses, tournaments and modes to lower my average? Please advise

    Try Merion B9 and Olympic F9.  Those are both par 34.  And the 1st 2 holes on Merion B9 are fairly easy birdies 😀

    EDIT:  Thanks Jure

  • AnaNikolaj
    639 Posts
    Mon, Sep 11 2023 8:23 AM

    SamSpayed:

    McBrayer937:

    I am curious as to what are the easiest courses, tournaments and modes to lower my average? Please advise

    Try Merion B9 and Olympic F9.  Those are both par 34.  And the 1st 2 holes on Merion B9 are fairly easy birdies 😀

     

    Ftfy 😉

  • tnivka
    141 Posts
    Mon, Sep 11 2023 9:10 PM

    An afterthought... and this is very much a two-edged sword. I can't tell from your profile if you have Magic Clothes. Positive: They are best acquired in coin rooms that expose you to various putting speeds, and coach you in putting, They can give you a significant performance boost. Negative: It's nice to predict where your shots will land. Magic Clothes essentially give you two sets of clubs, which may impair your feel for each.

  • MisterT99
    13 Posts
    Thu, Sep 14 2023 8:31 AM

    You did not specify the current tier.  Having reached the Legend tier by level 77 I have had to deal with the issue.  I have had success with Saint Andrews Front 9, and PGA National Back 9 and Front 9. For a while I used to be very successful at Pebble Beach Front 9 and Torrey Pines South Front 9.  While I scored a  few 30-31 shots (Tour Master level) on most courses and a few 28/29 on those mentioned above, I can tell you that the perceived difficulty depends a lot on the clubs you use, the balls, and also how the winds are set up.

    Some courses are par 70, so if you get a par you already start from 70 which helps lowering your average, assuming that you are not below 70 already.  The Front 9 at Olympic have par 34 (so if you can get par it is like scoring a 68), but that course is tough and requires powerful clubs. Often the lower par  is because some very long par 4 instead of being par 5 are used as par 4.  And if you don't have powerful clubs, you will likely not reach the greens in regulation (i.e. 2 shots for a par 4) .

    I have always played in the only set up available when I play single, so for me at Tour Master level that meant   Hard pin locations, Very fast greens (11) and  moderate winds. I entered a few tournaments, but seldom.

    One big problem with tournaments is that, one has to give up the costume, and that takes away some power from the driver or some precision from irons, or a tad better sweet spots for this or that club.  Costumes help players who cannot buy the best clubs and balls, even if moderately, but doing without means sometimes learning to use the clubs differently.

    I was told many times that the best way is when a club set up courses using much easier settings, but that is foreigner to me as my club basically ceased to exist shortly after I joined.

    One thing I can tell you: since I achieved the Legend tier relatively fast (level 77), now I face a very tough existence. When one reaches a higher tier, golf courses become all longer, greens faster, etc.  But that would not be a big deal. However, now I need to play very long holes (par 5 are even 600+ yards) and I cannot get the top clubs until I reach level 90-95+. That is a problem for now basically I cannot compete.  It is likely I will quit the game as it is just a waste of time after another. And I am not interested in playing tournaments, CCTH, etc.  It is funny and sad at the same time that I play level 100+ players who are just Tour Pro or Master tier, play shorter tees than I have to, and have the top clubs and balls! And here I come, starting from far behind with clubs that are 1-2 levels below theirs. Quite stupid that Topgolf decided to anchor the clubs to the levels and not the players' tiers.

    When all is said and done, your best bet to lower your average is to buy the top balls. It is that simple. It makes a huge difference to have a ball with spin 4.5 or even 5 vs a ball with a spin of 1 or 2. If you could get the wedged with high angles (high trajectories so that  when the balls land they barely jump around). Same thing with woods and irons.. pay attention to the trajectories (high is better,  medium is the worst as with the latter balls will run a lot which is horrible when you need to get to the greens and stop the balls)

    Depending on your level and your equipment, I would avoid the courses with very long holes: the holes may not be terrible, but they are so long that you would never reach the greens in regulation, in particular with headwinds and, unless you can hole your shot, you will have a hard time to even achieve par.  Firestone has some incredibly long Par 4s, Olympic is hard too, Chambers Bay has a few of those too, and more...

     

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