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Wed, Jan 25 2012 12:05 PM (30 replies)
  • Slasher74NL
    4 Posts
    Sat, Jan 21 2012 7:36 AM

    Hi there,

    what is the best way to get the green from rough next to the green?

    chip or flop?

     

    grtz,

     

    Slasher

  • mnshiner
    1,382 Posts
    Sat, Jan 21 2012 11:37 AM

    For myself it depends on what the distance is. But usually anything over 7 yards I will flop,  up until a certain distance.

  • Romesco
    51 Posts
    Sat, Jan 21 2012 11:41 AM

    For me, it depends on the lie % and distance. I usually flop in 40-25% lies, and 20-10 yards from the hole. Otherwise, I will use either a full shot, or chip from just off the green. It's all about personal preference. Go play some practice rounds and see what fits your style! Good luck!

     

    ~Rom

  • southboys
    421 Posts
    Sat, Jan 21 2012 11:46 AM

    i think that depends what green you playing, because i use flop shot a lot but in some cases i use chip to get close.

  • LeonDelBosque
    1,551 Posts
    Sat, Jan 21 2012 11:50 AM

    You forgot pitch. I use all three; depends on how much green I have to work with, how much I want the ball to run or not run, the slope and the distance to the green.

    Generally, I chip when I'm quite close to the green and it's not super steep downhill. This shot runs the most, almost like a putt. You have to make sure the ball lands on the green.

    Pitch is for farther away and when some roll is OK. Always full b/s.

    Flop is for when you want the ball to land next to the hole and stop it, especially when you want to avoid a big slope, like from just in front of the green on St. A #18. Also good for severe downhills slopes, as it will roll the least of the three.

    Don't try to baby any of these with a really short back swing, especially out of the rough. If I have to really choke down I'll switch to a different type of shot to allow a fuller swing. 

    Play practice rounds and just knock it around; score doesn't count and you have up to 10 (or 11, par 5) shots per hole.

     

  • SGTBilko
    1,686 Posts
    Sat, Jan 21 2012 12:20 PM

    Slasher74NL:

    Hi there,

    what is the best way to get the green from rough next to the green?

    chip or flop?

     

    grtz,

     

    Slasher

     

    Here is something I wrote a while back maybe this will help some...

    There is a time and place for almost every shot on here. What Bogey wrote is to the point but I like to think that a persons short game is what makes or breaks a player on WGT. When someone starts to scream about how this game sucks the first place I go is to their stats page and look at 4 things

    1. 1 putt Average
    2. 2 Putt Average
    3. Sand %
    4. Scrambling %

    By looking at these stats it will usually tell you about everything you need to know about a player. While it depends on the short game shot  I almost always use full to 3/4 backspin on the shot to control the amount of roll. So when do you use each shot? I do not believe there are any set standards but here a few I live by.

    1. Chip: Fringe or under 2 feet from the hole. Average roll with a chip shot with full backspin 2-3 feet on a normal to slightly up hill lie, factor in 1.5 to 2 on a 1-2 down hill lie. Anymore than that look at flop shot.

    2. Pitch: More that 2 feet away from green, ball is not below where I can see the green. Average roll with a pitch shot with full backspin 4-6 feet on a normal lie, 4-5 on uphill lie, add +3 on a downhill lie.

    3. Flop: One of the least valued shots on here because most do not know how to use this shot. 95% of the time you should never hit the ding line but stop it at the first marker to the left of the ding line. Doing this will force the ball to go straight where you aim rather than come off the club head to the right. Great shot 15 to 24 feet from the hole. Great shot if you have a large down hill or up hill lie or where you think the shot does not favor a chip or pitch shot. Average roll 3-4, will stop dead with callaway s ball.

    4. Full Wedge: I am not sure how many utilize the 50 yd wedge around the green on short shots but I tend to use it a lot and with great accuracy on shots anywhere from 20+ when I want the ball to stop almost dead or need a good backspin to the whole (works best with callaway S). With other balls it will roll 2-3 yds depending on the lie.

    5. Punch Shot: The punch shot around the green is another shot many players do not utilize enough. This is a perfect shot when you a. Want to lessen the effects of the wind on your ball. b. when you are in between wedges. and c. As a drop dead shot. (depending on the wedges you utilize).

    While I know there are more rules these are just a few of the basic ones I use. All to often I have seen some forum trolls write that you cannot use these with any accuracy and to that I say BS! I have 120+ holed approach shots and maybe 10 were lucky shots from long distances. I think it was Avatar Lee that once wrote the great players on this game do not always shot birdies but they rarely have bogies. Some of the best players on here have scrambling and sand %'s in the high 70's to low 80's. While I have not achieved that, being in the mid 60's has allowed me to move to legend and shot under par right away.  IMO

     

  • MainzMan
    9,591 Posts
    Sat, Jan 21 2012 12:21 PM

    I use a chip for pretty much everything up to 25 yards or so, after that a punched 64° wedge works well for me.

    A full b/s pitch with a 64° Cleveland wedge will stop within a few inches of landing, unless it's downhill, then you need to allow for some roll.  I also use the 60° but once the hole is at the end of that club's range I switch to a punch.

  • borntobesting
    9,695 Posts
    Sat, Jan 21 2012 12:24 PM

    Slasher74NL:

    Hi there,

    what is the best way to get the green from rough next to the green?

    chip or flop?

     

    grtz,

     

    Slasher

    It depends on several things. Mostly from 25/30 rough from 5 to 10 yards I will chip. I will pitch most others under 20 yards. I  will even punch if the rough is very heavy like the 60/70 around the green on # 4 @ congressional. I flop mostly for shots that are to a elevated green. Also it depends on clubs. If you have not upgraded you clubs and are still using the starters it is suicide to chip from almost any rough. Experiment with your shots and learn what feels best for you.

  • Allen63
    364 Posts
    Sat, Jan 21 2012 12:56 PM

    chip or flop?

     

    pitch ;)

     

  • Reaytj
    114 Posts
    Sat, Jan 21 2012 2:31 PM

    Slasher74NL:

    Hi there,

    what is the best way to get the green from rough next to the green?

    chip or flop?

     

    grtz,

     

    Slasher

    Good day,

    check my reply made here..... Using the full shot for your wedge

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