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chip or flop

• Fubar057 170 Posts

  Sat, Jan 21 2012 3:07 PM

  If your more than 2 yds off the green and in the  ruff  and less than 15ft from hole , a chip shot will usually stay in the ruff or just dribble onto the green

• mantis0014 8,946 Posts

  Sat, Jan 21 2012 3:50 PM

  Slasher74NL:

  Hi there,

  what is the best way to get the green from rough next to the green?

  chip or flop?

   

  grtz,

   

  Slasher

  I would always Flop with Full B/Spin, if it's more than 8yrds from the pin, because this shot works the best for me. 

  When Flopping go into reverse view and select either chip or putt...this will give you an idea of what the roll on the green is doing.... slightly adjust the aimer for the roll and wind.

  Change back to normal view and select Flop... Full B/Spin(this depends on how far away too) and click the line before the ding... the ball will travel towards the flag and move with the wind.

  Good Luck

     Roger

• titus1919 130 Posts

  Sun, Jan 22 2012 12:55 PM

  30 yards or under I flop 3o yards and up full swing or punch if in between clubs

   

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Sun, Jan 22 2012 1:17 PM

  The only problem with flopping is you're at the mercy of luck. Chipping and pitching, however, give you a bit of control on the roll after landing. Once you get the hang of those 2 shots you will find yourself flopping less and holing out more. Switching to putting view, planning the shot in the reverse view and executing it is much more likely to result in a hole out.

• LOLserver 3,522 Posts

  Sun, Jan 22 2012 2:22 PM

  Dunno, in my opinion "flop" is one of the most precise shots in this game if not the most. PRECISE DISTANCE. Opposite to some of the earlier posters, I try to ding the ball when flopping....I move the aim to some place left of the hole & hit with full bs. When hitting the ding you know precisely where the ball IS going to land . As said, flop can make the ball land "dead" close to the hole, since the r11 irons, the Cleveland wedges & the new Nike balls you need to find how much bs to add..practice, practice. Flop can also stop the ball from rolling away when hitting from rough & even sand. Indeed, wind will have a big effect on side wind shots, especially when strong wind, again, I move the aim just more to the left. I adjust the aim in reverse view.

  Must admit, flopping from fringe is a bit tricky, you need to take some feet from the shot distance. I chip if the ball is within 12 feet or a bit more, in an extreme down hill shot. If more then 35 feet, I hit full with some bs..practice, practice, again.

  I never pitch, did try hard but I never got close to the hole, or as close as with the flop.

  Remember to take the flag out when flopping...you can easily hit it when ball landing very close to the hole. 

  Well after all, is it all a matter of styles.....80% of my shots around the green are flops.

  Forgot to add, I sometimes add "top spin" to my flops...just to make it roll if my wedge distance is just a bit short.

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Sun, Jan 22 2012 2:52 PM

  LOLserver:

  I move the aim to some place left of the hole

  "Some place" doesn't sound very accurate. A tricky flop from the fringe? It is very easy to be seduced by the simplicity of the flop and the resulting up and down to save par. However, mastering the pitch and chip gives you a very real chance of holing out. Don't forsake the flop but don't live or die by it.  ;-)

• TarheelsRule 5,557 Posts

  Sun, Jan 22 2012 5:29 PM

  Jim is right here.  I have found that the chip is the shot that you go to if the rough isn't too severe and the distance is under 12 yards.  I can get it close and hole it once in a while.

  The flop I tend to use when the lie is bad and I always try to hit the marker before the ding so that it will fly straight and land a little softer, takes a little bit of length off the shot.  Depending upon what wedges and balls you use, the flop can stop on a dime.

  Regarding the pitch, I don't use that shot very often, prefer to hit a half or punch shot with a wedge from 25 yards or more.

• Boomerboy44 1,514 Posts

  Sun, Jan 22 2012 5:30 PM

  What Jim said because you rarely hole a flop but if you practice the chip and pitch you'll be pleased with how many shots you start making. But it does take some work to get good at it.

• FarFoo 2,920 Posts

  Sun, Jan 22 2012 5:39 PM

  10p worth.

  As Eric( LOLserver) says, once you work out the flop shot, you can more or less guarantee 1 close putt.

  You are very new to this game so go with that 'till you have it worked out.

  Then, start learning chipping when you are within 3 - 4 yards of the green.

  The chip wants to go in the hole like a magnet, but you have to read greens & factor in different lies &  green speeds.

  Pitching is when you can't chip because you are too far away from the edge of the green to chip, or the pitch will be easier than a chip because it cuts out a difficult part of the green, or its 20 yards+ or so. It will also affected by the wind as well as the lie, green speed & green slopes .

  Pitches like to go in the hole more than flops but less than chips.

  So I'd learn them one at a time, but start with understanding flops properly which you can always fall back on as a decent option.

  fwiw. I probably hole 20 chips for every 3-4 pitches for every 1 flop.

  But the flop is a safe option which rarely costs me a dropped shot, which is why I'd learn it properly first.

  Foo

   

• mantis0014 8,946 Posts

  Sun, Jan 22 2012 11:29 PM

  FarFoo:

  10p worth.

  As Eric( LOLserver) says, once you work out the flop shot, you can more or less guarantee 1 close putt.

  You are very new to this game so go with that 'till you have it worked out.

  Then, start learning chipping when you are within 3 - 4 yards of the green.

  The chip wants to go in the hole like a magnet, but you have to read greens & factor in different lies &  green speeds.

  Pitching is when you can't chip because you are too far away from the edge of the green to chip, or the pitch will be easier than a chip because it cuts out a difficult part of the green, or its 20 yards+ or so. It will also affected by the wind as well as the lie, green speed & green slopes .

  Pitches like to go in the hole more than flops but less than chips.

  So I'd learn them one at a time, but start with understanding flops properly which you can always fall back on as a decent option.

  fwiw. I probably hole 20 chips for every 3-4 pitches for every 1 flop.

  But the flop is a safe option which rarely costs me a dropped shot, which is why I'd learn it properly first.

  Foo

   

  Yes, if your close to the pin, in the 3-4yrd range then I would chip. Sometimes though there could be a huge slope form side to side, then a  chip might be a bit dangerous.

  I use the flop shot from about 9-35 yrds away when in the rough, depending how rough the rough is with the longer shots. 

  Eg If I can reach the Par5 4th(I think that's what it is...lol) on Beth, then I would go for it instead of playing safe to the right on fairway. The ball will either stop on the green(which is rare..lol) or either just come up short in the rough (make sure I miss the bunkers) or off the back...then my flop shot comes in handy...easy flop on...it either goes in (sometimes)  or an easy Bird.

  It's different for everybody and interesting to read what everybody would use.

  cheers

     Roger

  EDIT....  Just did this tnite...lol.... Flop shot for 8rds out in green side rough. Beth#17