ZC i'm sorry i am useing your thread for this, i just picked it at random and wasn't sure how to start my own, To WGT : You took 3 balls in 8 holes ! Really? No i did not lose them i never had the chance to lose them! Come on that is just wrong on every level ! Worse thing about it was my wife sat down and i was kinda showing her how wgt works then boom first ball takin out of play , she asks what the heck was that ? Oh that happens, this ball will last a couple of games, 4 holes later bam again ! Ya sure it will she says , then again on last hole! She looks at me puts her hand out and said give me your C Card now! lmao ! I bet you think i am gonna go take surveys to get more credits right? Wrong! i am gonna go start collecting alum cans again! But seriously its BS! Again sorry ZC