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Wedges to go with my iron set???

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Fri, Feb 3 2012 3:58 PM (34 replies)
  • MUSTAQBAL1
    270 Posts
    Tue, Jan 31 2012 1:00 AM

    one other thing, meter speed and ball spin have a lot to do with a productive shot.  you can have the best clubs but paried with the basic wgt balls with no spin, you will not get near the same results as with a better ball.  also, it is nice to have everything the same meter speed as well.  having varied meter speeds can throw your timing off.

    qbal

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Tue, Jan 31 2012 4:53 AM

    WeidaDeNei:
    50 yard wedge    -     77 yard wedge     -     90 yard wedge    .... What would the punch shots be for each...

    In that post I made before we were so rudely interrupted, WDN, the 41 was the 50 yard wedge punch, the 63 was the 77 yard punch and then you have the 90 yards as the full wedge shot. I believe that 90 punches around 81 yards. These are with the Satin wedges. Qbal showed you the Ping version.

    Basically, you can't go wrong with the 2 lower wedges, Ping or Satin. You will have then for a long time as there are still Legends using them. The third wedge will depend on what you eventually get for your irons. 

  • Longwedge
    885 Posts
    Tue, Jan 31 2012 7:13 AM

    YankeeJim:

    The lower level R11s have a set wedge that only goes 110 (unlike the later version where this is 120.) Punching that set wedge allows you to use a wedge like the 90. With Piz's advice of the 50 and 77, add that 90 and your low end coverage will look something like 41  50  63  77  90  (using the punch shot in between) and then you're at your set PW. (Not sure what it punches but should be around 98-99.)

    I'm actually a little intrigued here YJ. I was unaware that you were still carrying 4 wedges (I'm slipping in my older youth). I had the same set up all the way to TM, but when I made Legend I needed to change that.  I'm carrying a 3W and 3 wedges.

    Is there not a time, or on certain courses, when you feel you need the 3W.  The R11 3W has tremendous stopping ability, especially when paired with a high end Calloway or Nike.

    I'm not questioning you, just curious for educational purposes...since you are multiple strokes better.

    -Long

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Tue, Jan 31 2012 7:47 AM

    Longwedge:
    just curious for educational purposes

    There is no question the R11 3W instead of a 4th wedge is a superior setup for most players. That 3W is a great club and should be used. The R11 3 iron changed that for me. At 225 yards rated, more with better balls, it can almost replace that wood.

    4 wedges is not for everybody but I've found that the number of times I would use a 3W pales in comparison to the fearless attitude I have about any distance out from any lie.  With 20 different full swing yardages using all of the shots, 90% of the time I will have a full swing option to get where I'm going. Taking full swings with little spin pretty much assures you even the misses will be close. Choking and spinning combined with a missed ding causes *&$^%*$%#^&  posts.  LOL

    When I do take the 3W out I swap the CG100 out for it. Yes, I know the CG115 is right next to the set PW that goes 120 but it is an entirely different club plus it punches 96. I never even owned a 3W until I made Legend and did use it quite a bit until I learned the ropes at the Legend tier. I will say that playing 4 wedges for over 2 years (Satins  110  90  77  50) has really built a solid short game that is definitely paying off today with the 4 CG versions. :-)

  • southboys
    421 Posts
    Tue, Jan 31 2012 7:54 AM

    WeidaDeNei:

    I understand this. I just want to know what wedges change to what with the punch shot option.

     

    lev42 (ping64) 60 yds punch 49 yds.

    lev42 (ping58)  85 yds punch 70 yds

    lev41 (ping52) 100 yds punch 82 yds

     my punch with irons is, im starting from the PW= 98,115,129,142,156,169,182,193. hope this help.

  • WeidaDeNei
    298 Posts
    Tue, Jan 31 2012 12:27 PM

    All great advice. Thank you everyone. I will consider all options. Hopefully with every1s advice I will find myself on top of some leaderboard soon!

    Thanks again

  • MUSTAQBAL1
    270 Posts
    Tue, Jan 31 2012 5:00 PM

    yankee jim, out of curiosity, what holes do you think having a 4th wedge would possibly keep you from getting that eagle, or perhaps an easier par putt? i can think of that dogright hole on bethpage that has a long approach shot. i guess if you had a good tail wind then that r11 3iron could get you there. or, maybe you could punch with your driver from the fairway.  there is also that par 5 on the front side on congressional that you can reach from legend tees for an eagle putt, as long as there is no head wind.  i think if you had the right balls and a good tail wind, then that r11 3iron could reach it.  but then there are those long par 3s on oakmont and st. georges where that 3w really helps but guess you could just choke down on your driver. how do you play those shots if you don't mind me asking?  i have thought about going to a 4th wedge before but these aforementioned holes keep me from doing that.

    thx yankee jim,

    qbal

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Tue, Jan 31 2012 5:23 PM

    Good valid questions, Q. I guess my best answer would be that I've been playing 4 wedges for a few months now and in all that time I can't recall regretting not having it. I've faced shots that would be eagle opportunities if I had it but when you go to 4 wedges you have to commit to smart golf. I'll take an automatic birdie all day over an occasional eagle try. 

    You have to get creative with some shots like the par 3 at RSG that's 241 from the Legend tees. You can roll it right up to the pin in any wind by punching the driver there. Any kind of helping wind and the 3i plays. Keep in mind I use the Callaway (s) ball so the extra spin plays a part.

    On holes like BPB 7 you're always going to be able to roll onto the green from a decent drive with a 3i and top spin. That hole is a tough birdie even with a 3w. Again, a decent wind and you can stick the 3i close. It will carry that trap. It also plays well from the front left fringe with a pitch or punch.

    The long par 4 and 5 at CCC depend on the wind. More often than not the par 4 is 50-50 birdie and the par 5 is an eagle opp if the wind blows right. Otherwise it's an easy layup to a birdie.

    A side note here on the (s) ball; top spin affects the way the wind works on a shot. The extra spin of the (s) ball goes a long way to offsetting a lot of wind conditions and you can drive shots through it. It also enhances the carry on shots with the wind to the point you have to back off when using it to compensate. It's a learning thing.

    When all is said and done, I myself am a bit surprised at the way a 4 wedge bag handles Legend conditions. I'm pretty comfortable with them now but like I said earlier, if I was in some serious competition where every single shot makes a difference, I would have that 3W on certain courses. 

    One of the things that 4 wedges gives you is the confidence to extricate yourself from errant approaches to the point that you can be aggressive. The R11 3 iron changed it all because of its length and accuracy. So far, so good.  :-)

  • DarkenRahl
    2,115 Posts
    Thu, Feb 2 2012 7:46 PM

    YankeeJim:

    you have to commit to smart golf. I'll take an automatic birdie all day over an occasional eagle try. 

    That is exactly the point.  I've been slowly figuring that out, and thanks to the rest of that post have some more ideas on some of the holes that I have been flipping between the 3w and the extra wedge on.  Thanks.

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