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Thu, Jan 28 2010 7:57 AM (80 replies)
  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Tue, Jan 26 2010 7:07 AM

    Tibbets has a lot of class, not to mention experience and is worth listening to , overtheedge. He could speak for WGT if he wanted to so show him the respect.

     

  • AvatarLee
    1,644 Posts
    Tue, Jan 26 2010 7:19 AM

    So I took the night to think this situation over and the one quote that keeps coming back to me is this....

    "-          Whenever you equip a club, it’s performance/output will NEVER change based on your score, a tournament, who you are playing or, most importantly, your tier."

    In that sentence, Mr WGT has, in fact, answered all of your questions.  The fact that this thread is still ongoing is simply because you refuse to accept the answer.  I do.  I do not believe there is any behind the scenes shenanigans going on.  This is a reversal from my first impressions from yesterday, I admit.  I will trust what is being said only because it would be far more detrimental to the product and the reputation of the company if it were not the truth.  As far as the patents' existence and the language of the document, (I do not have any personal experience with filing patents) but it would make sense to include as much CYA in them as possible, not that it will all be used.  Try applying the current (known) system of advancing tiers which opens access to better equipment.  This better equipment is more precise, less forgiving, provides more distance, spin, higher trajectories and so on....  Does this not fit into the the "VEM" model?  I think it does.

    Out of all of this I think I have a new definition of the word 'crazy', as it applies to golf: Crazy is repeating the same task over and over expecting the same result!

    Just my 2 cents... And as always, sit back and enjoy! 

  • SLASHX
    278 Posts
    Tue, Jan 26 2010 7:35 AM

    AvatarLee:

      The fact that this thread is still ongoing is simply because you refuse to accept the answer.

    With all due respect i too think the thread is all but pointless at this point but not because i refuse to accept the answer... but because as we have been told... they can't tell us the answer.

    AvatarLee:

    "-            This better equipment is more precise, less forgiving, provides more distance, spin, higher trajectories and so on....  Does this not fit into the the "VEM" model?  I think it does.

    Actually that has nothing to do with the VEM. The VEM is a system to change the variables of the clubs once equipped based on predetermined thresholds monitored by the system. These variables could be almost anything but we know they aren't the 4 that MisterWGT listed. I think at this point we know all we are going to know and this thread is pointless. Just my opinion.

    AvatarLee:

     

    "-          Whenever you equip a club, it’s performance/output will NEVER change based on your score, a tournament, who you are playing or, most importantly, your tier."

    In that sentence, Mr WGT has, in fact, answered all of your questions.

    No... in that sentence Mister WGT has told us that those 4 things are not monitored variables within the VEM system that affect the performance of the virtual equipment.

  • Richard4168
    4,309 Posts
    Tue, Jan 26 2010 7:36 AM

    For me, I concur Lee. I would have liked to see WGT make a more formal introduction to the game with the VEM software so the members could better understand what was going on.

    The answer Lee gave satisfies my argument.

     

    Play well.

  • birdwell
    561 Posts
    Tue, Jan 26 2010 8:06 AM

    Richard4168:
    It seems that WGT tried to implement this new software in the game on the sly and got caught.

     

    Why do you assume that this hasn't been the model (in some form or another) from day one? The "beast" has been here longer than we have no?

     

     

  • Doublemochaman
    2,009 Posts
    Tue, Jan 26 2010 8:18 AM

    How about mutual exclusivity?  Perhaps there's the VEM and there's the beast.  Maybe the bugs (that we should still report) are independent of the VEM system?

  • cobra4
    359 Posts
    Tue, Jan 26 2010 8:23 AM

    Let me know when it is "VEM-LESS" day, i'll have a better chance to score well then....

  • TigersDaddy2
    3 Posts
    Tue, Jan 26 2010 8:53 AM
    I would like to say I've been playing for a few months now and have played better and better! Avater Lee, Biluox and Tibbets................LOOK OUT TIGERSDADDY2 is coming!!!!
  • Faterson
    2,902 Posts
    Tue, Jan 26 2010 9:03 AM

    overtheedge, you must be new here.  

    Other than that, this is a nice, civilized thread, and let's keep it that way. Or rather, let's end it that way. I identify with what AvatarLee said above, and I believe no further statements from WGT in this regard are strictly necessary. Either you trust WGT.com that they don't want to scam you, or you don't trust them. I do trust them, and therefore I don't require for them to swear on the Bible that they do not cheat me or other site users.

    Three days ago already, in the Ladders forum, I called this affair "a storm in a teacup". It's certainly a very interesting aspect of the game concept to discuss, but no earth-shattering issue, I'd say.

  • ThreeSpot
    476 Posts
    Tue, Jan 26 2010 9:04 AM

    I'm with AvatarLee. MisterWGT has in fact definitively answered the question about club performance on this site.

    I will also say that the interest level and passion on this topic are impressive. There are a lot of people (like me) who are really, really into this game!

     

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