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Server loads and the meter

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Sat, Feb 13 2010 10:34 AM

  Whew-You get that out all at once , jay-lol. I believe there's a middle ground on the server thing. It isn't that they are causing anything themselves, they just might be getting a little stressed with the boost in traffic. Kinda like going to a national chain restaurant at 6PM on a Friday or Saturday night. Oiy!

  Wo is correct in what he says but it doesn't apply to what I believe is happening-the servers are swamped during certain periods and the data transfers are slowed down. WGTNiv's a buff-how about it niv? Weigh in.

• WGTniv 1,788 Posts

  Sat, Feb 13 2010 10:39 AM

  YankeeJim:

  WGTNiv's a buff-how about it niv? Weigh in.

  Unfortunately I'm not a tech guy, so I'm not really qualified to comment on that.  WGTAdmin has stated in the past that even if you were to pull your internet cable (thereby severing the connection to the server), you might still experience a meter skip.

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Sat, Feb 13 2010 10:48 AM

  Tx for the quick response, niv. This isn't really about meter skipping it's about the overall performance of the entire game during certain hours. For instance, I get the landing view after I make a shot-it switches midflight.  Not on Friday evening. I don't see it. IRC is another example of that "period." Friday aft/eve is a zoo in there with a lot of people hanging out. Hmmmm-about the time this problem occurs. LOL-maybe it's IRC's fault.

  I don't know if there's a real solution but at least WGT is seeing talk about it. Maybe when they strike it rich with the sponsors the servers will get upgraded.

  BTW-there might be a solution to this right here in this market. Google is testing their latest toy-100Gb/min DL speed. They just started pitching it. Supposed to DL entire movies in 4-5 minutes.

• 158 Posts

  Sat, Feb 13 2010 10:51 AM

  jayjonbeach:

  Lets think about this, do you really think that everyone is having CPU spikes at exactly the same time of day?  Just coincidence?   Do you really think that people with very high end systems that never have more than 20% CPU usage, EVER, just have problems at exactly the same time, by coincidence and their CPU usage is still under 20%?

  It's not hard to try to blame it on predefined settings of the most popular operating system. Windows is doing lots of stuff the ordinary user is not aware of. It might be that the smart guys from Redmond have come up with an idea that certain hours during weekends are the best to perform some background maintenance of the system. Same with antivirus software.

  I know that my linux system has some cron jobs being scheduled for execution randomly at multiplies of 10s of minutes. Once it launches slocate I know that my game will be stuttering and I have to kill it.

  Two things could be done to go towards narrowing of the problem: 1) unplug you internet connection before the shot during an otherwise problematic round, and verify quality of the shot, 2) try to boot linux from a live cd - it should be pretty straightforward for you having already it experience - and play the game at those hours.

  I will be more than happy to hear your responses to these excercises, esp. No. 2. Until then I guess we will have to agree to differ.

  One thing more - what is your setting of the "background loading" option ?

• jayjonbeach 689 Posts

  Sat, Feb 13 2010 11:12 AM

  WojciechMigda:

  jayjonbeach:

  Lets think about this, do you really think that everyone is having CPU spikes at exactly the same time of day?  Just coincidence?   Do you really think that people with very high end systems that never have more than 20% CPU usage, EVER, just have problems at exactly the same time, by coincidence and their CPU usage is still under 20%?

  It's not hard to try to blame it on predefined settings of the most popular operating system. Windows is doing lots of stuff the ordinary user is not aware of. It might be that the smart guys from Redmond have come up with an idea that certain hours during weekends are the best to perform some background maintenance of the system. Same with antivirus software. 

  This would be the only other possible explaination for the "coincidence" except for several factors.  

   - The time period is far too long

   - Different people using different systems, OS, AV, etc, etc

  Just to name a couple. 

  WojciechMigda:

  Two things could be done to go towards narrowing of the problem: 1) unplug you internet connection before the shot during an otherwise problematic round, and verify quality of the shot, 2) try to boot linux from a live cd - it should be pretty straightforward for you having already it experience - and play the game at those hours.

  I will be more than happy to hear your responses to these excercises, esp. No. 2. Until then I guess we will have to agree to differ.   

  Well if my game is not going to be ruined by disconnecting I will try disconnecting just for fun, though I think its futile since the statistics have already spoken to what is up.

  WojciechMigda:

  One thing more - what is your setting of the "background loading" option ? 

  This really doesnt matter since it is always the same and I only have the problem at one particular time of day. 

   

  WojciechMigda:

   I guess we will have to agree to differ 

     

  Yep, there is nothing more to say than what I have pointed out already, facts and statistics dont lie. 

• Snaike 3,678 Posts

  Sun, Feb 14 2010 12:49 PM

  jayjonbeach:

  Yep, there is nothing more to say than what I have pointed out already, facts and statistics dont lie. 

  JJB... I am not an IT guy so I'm not going to get into the discussion between you and Woj.  I do find it fascinating and will continue reading to see if you can come up with a consensus.

  Just to add a bit of information to your debate though.... I am here in SF with WGT and I have found no discernable difference in the meter in regards to day/time of day.  My meter skips are random and have been that way since day one.  (Windows IE7/Cable modem/Game Booster)

  But the one point that I did want to comment on was in your last message, quoted above...

  As popularized by the immortal Samuel Langhorne Clemons (aka Mark Twain):

  Remember, 'There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.'

  Peace  

• tiffer67 1,764 Posts

  Mon, Feb 15 2010 5:54 AM

  I am getting to the end of my patience with the meter. How can you have integrity of competition when one player can experience numerous skips and freezes during 9 holes and another player can have none?

  I have lost count now of the number of rounds ruined by anomalies in the meter at crucial times. Sometimes it really isn't possible for you just to let the meter run out, your instinct takes over.

  I really enjoy this game and don't expect perfection everytime but when it is costing you money to play in competitions, the least you should expect is for the technology to work.

   

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Mon, Feb 15 2010 6:46 AM

  tiffer67:

  I am getting to the end of my patience with the meter. How can you have integrity of competition when one player can experience numerous skips and freezes during 9 holes and another player can have none?

  tiffer-Wgt has all along maintained that a lot  of the meter problems come from the local machine (notice I didn't say all.) This might be an indication that they're right. You have problems but your opp doesn't. Hmmm. One thing that works a lot of the time, if you're in MP, is to x out of the game and WGT and log back in. You'll go back to the game and might be ok.

  Another would be to take a close look at your machine. This thread covers a lot of ideas and has helpful stuff that might solve some problems. GL

  http://wgt.com/forums/t/6655.aspx?PageIndex=1

• tiffer67 1,764 Posts

  Mon, Feb 15 2010 8:53 AM

  Thanks for your reply YankeeJim and the heads up on the other thread, it's appreciated.

• jayjonbeach 689 Posts

  Mon, Feb 22 2010 7:57 PM

  Meter acting up bigtime tonight again at its usual time 11pm Eastern or 8pm PST.  Burned a couple of my drives and ruined some putts too, skipping right before I am about to ding making it impossible to let it go into a practice swing.

  My recommendation is no one should play around this time, especially tourneyments. 

  Now if everyone would just do that then maybe I could play without meter issues...hehe

  Frankly I'd be much better off just not playing around this time (since 95% of my issues happen only at this time) but it is one of the most convenient times to play, and obviously a lot of people are finding the same thing.  I hope WGT will at least look at the "traffic" around these times and consider upgrading servers or at least server memory to help people with these nasty meter problems, it really ruins the enjoyment of the game for a lot of people.

  I sure hope this update is addressing the meter (somehow I doubt it though) as any more "additions" to the game which we are all waiting for of course, can in fact only "serve" to make matters worse, punn intended of course.  :)