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Match play credits

• SweetiePie91 269 Posts

  Thu, Mar 29 2012 5:59 AM

  I have no idea how you count here on WGT but I am feeling really robbed when I play match play challenge for credits. 

  I just finished a game against someone and we agreed on playing for 222 credits. And then WGT deposits 22 credits from both of us=44 credits. The window says winner will get 200 credits and so far I think everything is pretty fair.

  Then after the match ends it says I won 200 credits. BUT, when I check my balance I see that it has only risen 178 credits. Where did the 22 credits I was said to have won go?

  First you charge both for 222+222=444 credits. Then you say winner will get 200 credits. But actually it is just 178. 444-178=266. This means we pay 266 credits together for a game to WGT with a chance to win 178. 

  Why dont I get the 200 credits I was said to get?

• SweetiePie91 269 Posts

  Mon, Apr 2 2012 1:06 AM

  Yay no answer....

• 7thwave 556 Posts

  Mon, Apr 2 2012 1:39 AM

  I have no answer, but i fully agree. I suggest to play MP on the True Golf courses. THEN not only do they charge you double MP-fee, they get Green-Fee AND precious ball time. You get  F*****ed again, but at least you get f******ed good.

• MBaggese 15,367 Posts

  Mon, Apr 2 2012 2:06 AM

  Because...

  WGT takes 10% of entry fee and 10% of the winnings, IIRC.

   

   

• 7thwave 556 Posts

  Mon, Apr 2 2012 2:33 AM

  MBaggese:

  Because...

  WGT takes 10% of entry fee and 10% of the winnings, IIRC.

  OMG.....you are kiddin i hope....although that does explain it....unbelievable

  EDIT: i see no mention of that 10% over the winnings:

  What is the FEE value?

  The FEE value that is displayed when setting up a Match Play Challenge game is the fee that is paid to WGT for running the game.

  WGT will withhold 10% of the challenge amount from each player as a fee for running the game. For example if each player challenges 100 credits, WGT will withhold 10 credits from each player as the fee. Therefore the winner of the match will win 90 credits from their opponent.

  The minimum fee taken by WGT is 10 credits per player. The maximum fee taken is 175 credits per player.

• alosso 21,060 Posts

  Mon, Apr 2 2012 2:48 AM

  MBaggese:

  Because...

  WGT takes 10% of entry fee and 10% of the winnings, IIRC.

  Can't believe that. Here is what the FAQ says:

  WGT will withhold 10% of the challenge amount from each player as a fee for running the game. For example if each player challenges 100 credits, WGT will withhold 10 credits from each player as the fee. Therefore the winner of the match will win 90 credits from their opponent.

• SweetiePie91 269 Posts

  Mon, Apr 2 2012 2:49 AM

  As I set it up for 222 credits and then it says that we are playing for 200 credits (the winning amount) I want to get those 200 that it says and not 178! They double charge it ffs, why cant you see it lol.

  Another thing, after the match ends, it actually says I won 200 credits but STILL I only get 178. So stupid...

  And I would like an answer from WGTIcon please too, but tnx to you other guys anyway :)

• jeffdos924 1,085 Posts

  Mon, Apr 2 2012 3:20 AM

  SweetiePie91:

  Another thing, after the match ends, it actually says I won 200 credits but STILL I only get 178. So stupid...

   You DID win 200 credits from the other guy  ( he has actually spent 222 credits... 200 for the wager plus WGT's cut of 22 credits)

   If you look at your account activity, you will see that you paid a  fee of 22 credits for that match .... you paid that as sson as you hit the first tee ( before anybody even tees off).

     You set the match up for 222 credits... 10% of that wager is the fee that WGT will take before the match even begins, leaving 200 cr to be won or lost. The other players agrees to those same terms. So now it looks like there are 444 cr in the pot, but there isn't. You both paid 22 cr for the priviladge of wagering your credits, leaving 400.

   Now.. you win the match and you will win 200 credits ( his 222 minus the fee = 200)

   You didn't lose anything, but STILL PAID  22 credits to play the match. So your net gain is only 178 cr. ( The 200 you win minus your 22 cr fee.)

   WGT is the only real winner in mpc's. They get 10% of the wager from both players.. in this case 22 x2 + 44 credits. ( pure profit for WGT). That 200 credits was just shuffled from 1 player to another and probably will be again & again.

• 7thwave 556 Posts

  Mon, Apr 2 2012 3:56 AM

  Now i'm really confused. Here are the relevant credit exchanges from a match over 250 cr:

  03.31.12	Match Play Challenge Fee: 25 Credits	Challenge Fee	-25 cr
  03.31.12	Match Play Game against *****. You win 225               .	Challenge Win	225 cr

  So, in the end i have 200 more credits, not 225

  (10 min. later )EDIT: WOW i think i'm beginning to see the light.....

• alosso 21,060 Posts

  Mon, Apr 2 2012 4:41 AM

  wave, that is correct:

  Your wager of 250 stays invisible.

  From that wager, each opponent pays 25 to WGT, 2x225 are in the hat between you. As the winner, you take back your 225 (invisible) and get his 225.

  Your effective wager was 200 cr + 25 entry fee from both players, or, the other way round, the winner pays 50 cr fees from his 250 cr "win".

   

  Having this in view, Sweeties example is correct as well:

  (edit: as jeff stated already)

  WGT took 22 from each player and payed 200 to the winner. The net result is
  200 - 22 = 178. Looking at the wager of 222, both fees are substracted from it.

  SweetiePie91:

  First you charge both for 222+222=444 credits. Then you say winner will get 200 credits. But actually it is just 178. 444-178=266. This means we pay 266 credits together for a game to WGT with a chance to win 178.

  No, hopefully you weren't charged 222 cr, only 22 - look into your account. On your side, the 222 were only blocked at the start.

  The crs in play are 222 from the loser + 22 from the winner. WGT gets 44, your net balance is 200-22=178.