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Re: Oakmont #2 Approach Back Pin

• DarSum 1,440 Posts

  Wed, Nov 14 2012 10:42 AM

  40-60 yrd approach on Oak #2 back left pin.

  If you land hole high or slightly below the ball rolls back 5 to 6 feet.

  BUT if you land the ball 4 or 5 feet past the hole, it stays up there. You're then left with a 4 ft put 3 inches down.

  I thought maybe the hole is sitting on a slight shelf that drops off near the hole. But I've viewed it many times and see no shelf. If it was then the putt above the hole should be level.

   

• BubbaCrusher007 1,567 Posts

  Wed, Nov 14 2012 10:54 AM

  DarSum:

  BUT if you land the ball 4 or 5 feet past the hole, it stays up there.

  Sometimes. Depends whether or not I apply a slight touch of back=spin. I have hit it above that hole 4, 5 feet & had it trickle right down near or into the hole so,,are we playin the same Oak?

• DarSum 1,440 Posts

  Wed, Nov 14 2012 11:22 AM

  Hilarious. I try to replicate the shot and it comes back down the hill this time.

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  The previous shot (why I made this post) landed left of that shot and directly above the hole but it stayed there.

  Looking more closely at the green now I see why it does that. It doesn't actually slope front to back as much as it does from right to left looking.

  But I still think the ball should roll back when it lands in an area that leaves a 4ft putt 3 inches down. ffs

• genorb 1,255 Posts

  Wed, Nov 14 2012 11:49 AM

  First: the spin.

  You have to set spin such as you have a "neutral" effect (ball stop dead when landing without rolling forward or backward, not always easy to figure out), with you satin wedge it's around half backspin (or just a bit less) if you choke and just a tad of backspin if you are full power or close to.

  With cleveland wedge, that's more tricky but most of the time no spin will work except when you use full power (or close to) where you have to had some topspin (because you are landing on an uphill part of the green). If you choke a lot with tailwind, then add a bit of backspin.

  Second: place to land

  The best place to land is at the left of the pin (1-2 yds depending if you expect your balls to roll foward or not), a bit before the pin if your ball will roll (if you are choking a lot with you cleveland wedge, wich happen for a 55-60yds shot, and if you don't use spin), a bit above the pin in the other cases because then the ball will slightly rolls back.

  At the left of the pin, this is where the ball will roll the less. If you land below the pin at the right of the pin, it will rolls back quite a lot.

  Hope this helps.

  Regards

• DarSum 1,440 Posts

  Thu, Nov 15 2012 7:31 AM

  Excellent assessment Fabian.