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Re: tour legend green speed

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Sun, Aug 11 2013 11:51 PM (34 replies)
  • ThreeSpot
    476 Posts
    Tue, Feb 12 2013 6:41 AM

    The 1-putt% stat is the percentage of greens putted on which exactly 1 putt was taken. It is not "the % of all the putts he takes that are 1 putt". Whatever that means. :)

  • gr8flbob
    592 Posts
    Tue, Feb 12 2013 9:42 AM

    courteneyfish:

    gr8flbob:
    , the diff between TM tournament and and Legend tournament is very slight ... and mainly shows in delicate downhill putts. I find I can use the same formula for all of the top 3 speeds 

    Which is probably why your one putt stat is so poor. There is around a 20% difference between TM and TL speeds.

     

    Your bluntness is both refreshing and annoying, cfish. LOL! So far as your criticism of my 1-putt%, there are several factors:

    1. It took me a long time to get a clue on distance control; my personal estimate of distance left after 1st putt (at this stage of my game development) is <2-3 ft for ~80% - 90% of that first putt. this tells me my distance control is decent.

    2. My reads are a weak spot in my putting game - particularly long (>10 ft) breaking putts.

    3. My GIR is 75% or so, but avg distance from pin is 17 ft., which loops me into factor 2 above.

    4. A combination of (until recently) erratic meter - and an old fart's reflexes (not exactly fighter-jock quick, lol) contributes to the severity of factors 2 & 3 above.

    All of the above factors mean that my personal stats data base has a ton of crappy play front-loaded over my first few years at WGT. It's going to take another ton of fairly decent play to bring my averages 'up to par', so to speak.

    Sign me, "Going to hell in in a hand-bucket - but at least I'm enjoying the ride!"

    (P.s. to Ms Fish: we've played 1 or 2 times and I enjoyed both games, regardless of simultaneously getting my Legend-hack butt kicked by your superior skills. My average distance from the pin for approaches is a bit more than 5 yds; yours were less than 2 yds or so. Enough said! )

     

  • skccvb
    799 Posts
    Tue, Feb 12 2013 1:28 PM

    TL speed is 1.5 - Legend 1.4 - TM 1.3 etc - meaning on a 10 foot scale, a 100% putt will travel 15 ft (flat putt) for Tour Legends. This multiplier is based on "standard" speed which is a 1.0 . 

    Dividing 1 into the multiplier provides a percentage; i.e. a TL putt is 67% of the distance *example - 10 foot flat putt should be hit 6.7 feet (plus 1-2 feet)

  • Joshnosh
    548 Posts
    Wed, Feb 13 2013 4:40 PM

    well this just opened my eyes no wonder since i became legend im just missing most putts im still using tm tourny formula

    Thanks allot

  • Danowadd
    72 Posts
    Sun, Aug 11 2013 11:51 PM

    Joshnosh:

    well this just opened my eyes no wonder since i became legend im just missing most putts im still using tm tourny formula

    Thanks allot

     

       I use the distance divided by 1.3  in Legend / tournament greens.

    I've had my own formula that's pretty consistent with whats being related here....however I've been shocked at how much differently the Callaway's and the Nike's differ in speed and roll.

    Nike's will roll about a foot farther than the Callaway's . 

    My one putts are decent--at 47% , but the only way I see to improve  those stat's is to work on approach shots that get you within 5--8 feet from the hole.

    I still wish for a ball that comes devoid of dots, and we can have a dozen or so to put them where needed..   :)   Does anyone have a clue what WGT would charge for that one??  Lmao

     

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