Don't know where you get your info MBaggese but I have played both those courses many many times in the past year and a half and if there were more options with different conditions to play them in RG's I would certainly play them more often,seems to me that having only 1 option for each in the Rg's when there are 15 slots available is a bit stingy,if WGT would offer more of them in RG's I'm sure they would get more people paying the green fees to practice on them in regular play,,,,,can't wait to see your negative comments on this reply MB........