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Re: Yardage Error at Olympic

• Wheels65 744 Posts

  Fri, Mar 7 2014 2:52 PM

  Yes - Js - you are correct  - I would guess that the info in the "aiming" rectangle was correct - 296 yards.  Unfortunately, I let this issue distract me & posed the question before I hit the ball (i.e. whole shot lost due to computer lock-up - caused by operator's 'head lock-up').

  Maybe, Paul was right - it's a carry-over from a previous pin location - but - who knows? Due to my ignorance as to how to attach a jpeg into these posts, I doubt that any of the "Icons are following this thread.

  
  

  I would like to know as this may 'crop up' in a match for $.
  

• alosso 21,072 Posts

  Fri, Mar 7 2014 3:15 PM

  DAZZA501:

  Quite simply, it's 288yds to the middle of the green, 296yds to the pin.

  All par 4's (apart from doglegs) are measured this way here.

  Excuse me: This is opposite to my experience.

  While (amateur) scorecards IRL are measured to green center, courses of Pro tournaments (changing daily) and WGT courses are indicated to the pins.

  I haven't had a look at OLY because there is only one pin set AFAIK, but it is true for STA and other courses here.

• DAZZA501 5,972 Posts

  Fri, Mar 7 2014 3:52 PM

  alosso:

  DAZZA501:

  Quite simply, it's 288yds to the middle of the green, 296yds to the pin.

  All par 4's (apart from doglegs) are measured this way here.

  Excuse me: This is opposite to my experience.

  While (amateur) scorecards IRL are measured to green center, courses of Pro tournaments (changing daily) and WGT courses are indicated to the pins.

  I haven't had a look at OLY because there is only one pin set AFAIK, but it is true for STA and other courses here.

  Ok Alosso. Whatever you say

   

• MainzMan 9,591 Posts

  Fri, Mar 7 2014 10:23 PM

  Notwithstanding how yardages are measured and marked in real life, as far as I can tell Dazza is right when it comes to WGT.   Looking at that green in single hole practice mode the distance given is 256 yards and when the aimer is over the hole it's 262 yards.  From the tee it's roughly 241 yards to the front edge of the green and 276 to the back making the green 35 yards deep.  If the distance top right is to the centre of the green that would be 241 + 17.8, 258 yards. 

  This differs slightly from the stated 256 but maybe I'm measuring a bit of fringe somewhere or perhaps the depth of the green is measured in a straight line from the tee through the hole and not actually at the deepest part of the green.

  Whatever, I'm happy to accept what Dazza says.  It makes sense and I'll continue to believe it until someone offers a viable alternative explanation rather than just saying he's wrong.

• alosso 21,072 Posts

  Fri, Mar 7 2014 10:50 PM

  Please excuse me, Wheels and DAZZA!

  DAZZA501:

  Quite simply, it's 288yds to the middle of the green, 296yds to the pin.

  All par 4's (apart from doglegs) are measured this way here.

  Apparently, you are correct concerning OLY.
  I was trapped into the facts of other courses (e.g. STA).

  At OLY F9 there are only a few straight tracks, ##6, 7 and (?)9.

  At the doglegs, direct distance to the pin is shorter than scorecard, as expected. See #1, 521 vs. 533 yds.

  While pin and scorecard distances are equal at #6 (489 from the tips), both 7 and 9 show longer distances to the pins (cf. blue dot at the tee) than on the scorecard (top right). 288 / 296 and 449 / 452 respectively.

  Who says, nothing changes?

   

  And while we're at it:

  @WGT: Is there a second set of pins in the store?

• geraldlarousse 1,986 Posts

  Fri, Mar 7 2014 10:55 PM

  alosso:

  And while we're at it:

  @WGT: Is there a second set of pins in the store?

  Yes Alosso i would say they have a second set of pins for Oly. I seen a video of 17 with front right pin. Will search will be right back.

  Got it. Check this pin out.

• alosso 21,072 Posts

  Fri, Mar 7 2014 11:29 PM

  MainzMan:

  Whatever, I'm happy to accept what Dazza says.  It makes sense and I'll continue to believe it until someone offers a viable alternative explanation rather than just saying he's wrong.

  O.k., I was wrong concerning OLY.

  Alas, we have discussed this subject ad nauseam concerning other courses. In all cases (before OLY), the scorecard length is to one of the pins, not to green center.

  STA#10 is the most prominent example:

  From the whites, it shows 330 yds. These are some second shots from the tee (see top left) with indication of the real distance:

  1) to the front pin, 317 yds (visible from the blue dot before the shot)

  

   

  2) to the left pin, 330 yds (=scorecard length).

  

  The minimap shows that this pin position is still in the front half.

  From the camera behind the green, the green yardages are 316 (front) and 365 (back), thus green center would be at about 345 yds.

  It is even more apparent at STA #1. There, the back pin marks the scorecard length while the front pin is 20 yds shorter.

  Numbers from the tips:

  Scorecard = back pin: 375 yds
  Front pin: 355 yds
  Green extension: 344 to 387
  Green center: about 366 yds

   

• alosso 21,072 Posts

  Fri, Mar 7 2014 11:37 PM

  geraldlarousse:

  Yes Alosso i would say they have a second set of pins for Oly. I seen a video of 17 with front right pin.

  Thank you, a nice video proof!

  Hope I can play it sometime!

• MichaelStroke 2,066 Posts

  Mon, Mar 17 2014 4:29 PM

  I remember hating Olympic at one point because of the distance issues.  Then I figured out how to fix it.  Now I don't mind it - when I don't land past the pin.

• Cheese000 194 Posts

  Mon, Mar 17 2014 5:28 PM

  I think the double-pin assumption is correct. Just today I hit my drive there on the green below the ridge from legend tees and showed 288 yd drive with 27ft to the hole. Now, the area I was in below the ridge is very similar to a pin position at (real) olympic, it was the 1 on the final round of US Open 2012, so I guess the yardage marking is to that pin position and not the one we play.