well the more you mouve up (tiers) , the more you make friends non quitters , then you dont care much about quitters multi acc cheaters ect play with friends ,make lots of them pick the best one have fun ,,,,:) and the real winners here are the one playing this game for fun ,and still be able to give a good game to most players .....there are in this game some verry gifted players its part of life ....and this great game foxymilder , and yes its the place to talk about anything ....all frustration is understood by all dedicated players ,,,,:)