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Tue, Aug 7 2012 10:51 PM (13 replies)
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  • gr8flbob
    592 Posts
    Thu, Aug 2 2012 5:46 PM

    This is probably old hat to all you soon-to-be Tour Legends, but it's been a recent revelation to me ... 

    If you're like me you always check out putts from both the default 'behind the player' view and the reverse view (pin between camera and player) to get as good a read as possible.

    I have recently discovered (for myself anyway) the usefulness of doing the same thing on approaches and even drives. The locations of the reverse aerial cameras are shown on the hole maps in the lower right of your play window. 

    NOTE! You must have them enabled in MENU / GAME SETTINGS/ DISPLAY/ AERIAL MULTI-CAM by checking the ON box and saving settings.

    I find I am better able to estimate impact of the wind on the ball-flight, using this technique. Additionally, assuming you know the carry distance of the various clubs in your bag with different spin settings, you can use the reverse view to accurately determine that "Yes, I can carry this trap on the fly, or make it over that water hazard, or carry the drive over the bend in a dogleg."

    If you DON'T Know the carry distance of each club in your bag (preferably, both with zero spin and with full backspin), you can figure it out by hitting the club(s) of interest from the tee or from a long fairway like Beth #10. Replay the shot looking from a reverse camera view and note the yardage when the ball first hits the fairway. 

    As with putting, I actually execute all strokes from the 'normal' view. this is mainly because I like to hit 'off-ding' (a bit early or late) minimize the impact of cross winds. About the only time I try hard to 'ding' a shot is if the wind is directly in my face (looking at the hole), or blowing directly towards the hole (coming from behind me when facing the hole).

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    (... and to all you 'this has been posted about long ago in this or that obscure thread' nitpickers, I didn't want to search  -  I just want to share my experience with using all the tools available during WGT play - so live with it!)

  • mantis0014
    8,946 Posts
    Fri, Aug 3 2012 1:34 AM

    Very Nice Tips m8

    -Roger

  • mantis0014
    8,946 Posts
    Fri, Aug 3 2012 7:11 AM

    When putting... this is my thinking.

    Reverse View to get the line... change back to normal view to Putt.

    When Learning how to Putt...  Get The Distance Right first... Doesn't matter if your missing all the time, If the ball is always going a couple feet past hole... then you have the right strength....

    The Aim is the hardest... learn how the dots move.... Basicaly the speeds are always the same... slow, fast, very fast or no movemnt for the dots.  If you can remember the way the dots move then you know where to aim or click meter... and be prepared to adjust for next time.

    If in doubt at what the dots are doing... just hit it straight.

    Keep it simple

  • gr8flbob
    592 Posts
    Fri, Aug 3 2012 5:02 PM

    mantis0014:

    When putting... this is my thinking.

    Reverse View to get the line... change back to normal view to Putt.

    When Learning how to Putt...  Get The Distance Right first... Doesn't matter if your missing all the time, If the ball is always going a couple feet past hole... then you have the right strength....

    The Aim is the hardest... learn how the dots move.... Basicaly the speeds are always the same... slow, fast, very fast or no movemnt for the dots.  If you can remember the way the dots move then you know where to aim or click meter... and be prepared to adjust for next time.

    If in doubt at what the dots are doing... just hit it straight.

    Keep it simple

    Don't know if I could have said it any better.

    1. Reverse view, determine distance (power required) and aim (for wind, and for some courses, landing area terrain for through the green play; slope for putts);

    2. return to 'normal' view and make the stroke.

     

     

  • mantis0014
    8,946 Posts
    Fri, Aug 3 2012 5:43 PM

    On the greens some players putt in reverse view.  I'm a miss the ding putter, I cant putt in reverse view because i have to click on the opposite side and confuses the living daylights outa me...lol.

    #17 at Kia... if you land in a certain spot on the green, you have no option but to putt in reverse view.. that's the only thing they give you.

    As the OP said... With all shots, click either the reverse view or the camera's to get a better Aim at the shot you are playing. Some of the real short Par4's it's good to click the camera at the back of green when aiming your Tee shot, just show's you a better look closer to the hole.

    One last thing....  I said keep it simple.  On the greens some people calculate the wind in the equation with distance and slopes....  The only thing I worry about is distance and slope on green, I don't even look at what the wind is doing (on the green)

    Very good Post Bob, little things that you have said makes heaps of difference on the course for the better.

    -Roger

  • Tightrope
    1,072 Posts
    Fri, Aug 3 2012 6:19 PM

    mantis0014:
    I'm a miss the ding putter,

    Can not say for certain, but while hitting "off ding" might be a good idea on windy fairways, I do think it is a bad idea on the green. At  least in theory your putter will lose both length and precision if you miss the ding. Precision is very good to have if you want it to drop...

  • gr8flbob
    592 Posts
    Fri, Aug 3 2012 6:30 PM

    mantis0014:

    When putting... this is my thinking.

    Reverse View to get the line... change back to normal view to Putt.

    When Learning how to Putt...  Get The Distance Right first... Doesn't matter if your missing all the time, If the ball is always going a couple feet past hole... then you have the right strength....

    The Aim is the hardest... learn how the dots move.... Basicaly the speeds are always the same... slow, fast, very fast or no movemnt for the dots.  If you can remember the way the dots move then you know where to aim or click meter... and be prepared to adjust for next time.

    If in doubt at what the dots are doing... just hit it straight.

    Keep it simple

    Don't know if I could have said it any better.

    1. Reverse view, determine distance (power required) and aim (for wind, and for some courses, landing area terrain for through the green play; slope for putts);

    2. return to 'normal' view and make the stroke.



  • mantis0014
    8,946 Posts
    Fri, Aug 3 2012 7:41 PM

    Tightrope:

    mantis0014:
    I'm a miss the ding putter,

    Can not say for certain, but while hitting "off ding" might be a good idea on windy fairways, I do think it is a bad idea on the green. At  least in theory your putter will lose both length and precision if you miss the ding. Precision is very good to have if you want it to drop...

    Yes, I see what your saying T.  

    Heaps of practice mate, I've learnt to use my Rossa. Others who have seen me action on the greens will tell you I can be deadly on the Greens.

    My stats don't really show it, but I must be getting close to 50,000 putts....lol

    I would love to know what the figures are since turning Legend last year.

    Putters like the Ghost, you need  to Ding.  Rossa is more forgiving for the way I Putt.

    The reason why I started to Putt, missing the ding...   I usually have slow brain waves going down to me mouse finger... which causes me to miss the ding anyway...lol. After reading posts that others are doing it, decided to try it...

    It takes awhile to get use to it, just like anything...  It's working for me.  I must admit though I can miss the odd 2ft putt every now again....lol.

    The only time I move the Aim, is when there is a very fast break on long Putts and still miss the ding.

    Cheers

       Roger

     

     

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