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Uneven lies...HERE WE GO :-)

Sat, Dec 29 2012 12:34 PM (184 replies)
  • Dutch57
    362 Posts
    Fri, Aug 31 2012 2:09 PM

    to radical a change..   I have spent a long time  making  Legend consistent decisions..  This change reminds me of    freebie balls and freebie clubs..  and how much i didnt know  at the time..  Sorry, this isnt  workable for me. 

  • chris5214
    1,937 Posts
    Fri, Aug 31 2012 2:38 PM

    well, lets hope they make the right decision & scale this down to realistic levels .. this is only phase 1 .. i'm sure there will be more than a few efforts before it is just right ..

    all that i can say is that i play real golf & the deviation here doesn't come remotely close what happens IRL .. i mentioned a scale-down of 60%, which i think is pretty close to real life .. definitely not less than 50% ..

    also IRL one can open or close your clubface fractionally to compensate for an uneven lie without sacrificing much distance at all, if any, if the the lie is not up- or downhill .. being able to do this is crucial together with intro'ing uneven lies IMO ..

    In fact, i would like to see 2  scoring avg's .. one for regular play, like it is now, but with a draw/fade feature included .. and one with uneven lies, also draw & fade feature included .. in other words, you retain your Tier, but you have 2 running avg's over two modes of play .. just gotta figure a way to get a combined avg that enables tiering up by giving each avg over each game mode a certain weight ..

  • okiegolfer2
    350 Posts
    Fri, Aug 31 2012 9:15 PM

    chris5214:
    lets hope they make the right decision & scale this down to realistic levels

    I agree!  I've tried a couple of practice rounds & the "uneven lies" shots were simply too exaggerated to be realistic at all.  I can see this feature becoming a reasonable challenge after quite a bit of tweaking.

  • JFHuber
    435 Posts
    Fri, Aug 31 2012 9:38 PM

    just like real golf....haha.....if real golf was this drastic , there would be no golf...gr8 concept but needs to be a bit realistic...

  • caupo70
    41 Posts
    Fri, Aug 31 2012 10:01 PM

    good idea -- but in my opinion, dial it back 50% and then continue to monitor/tweak from there; the deviations are too large at the moment.

  • Infinito3010
    3,689 Posts
    Fri, Aug 31 2012 10:32 PM

    The dialog in the news section, in regards to downhill lies, says the following.

    Downhill lies fly lower and shorter.    Well, that is not right, generally the trajectory is lower which means the ball travels further.

  • LOLserver
    3,522 Posts
    Fri, Aug 31 2012 11:39 PM

    Infinito3010:

    The dialog in the news section, in regards to downhill lies, says the following.

    Downhill lies fly lower and shorter.    Well, that is not right, generally the trajectory is lower which means the ball travels further.

    Agree, besides the uphill shots ought to send the ball higher and not lower but indeed shorter. I notices the ball flying lower when uphill shots at this moment with the uneven lie.

    In my opinion about 30% of the general effect needs to be reduced.

    For bunkers shots needs to be analysed in comparison to reality; you hit the ball in percentage of "power" applied to the ball considering the amount of sand to be taken along in the shot, lets say you hit 1/4 of a swing, halve swing & full swing, but again the meter in WGT would give the right length.

    Flop is a shot that need to be tuned a lot when the uneven lie, it is almost impossible to judge where the ball will land with strong winds.

    I am making all my test with strong winds which in my opinion is the most crucial when using the uneven lie. 

    Last observation, there are sometimes a "black" uneven lie graphic instead of the red-yellow-green, does it mean that the uneven lie has no whatsoever effect on the shot?, threads do not move at all. 

    Considering the tiers to be used the uneven lie, it ought to be only for TL. Not even many legends are happy with the feature, but it could be created official tournaments for Legends, TM, & Masters with the uneven lie although not for Pros, Amateurs & Hacks.

    Eric

  • mantis0014
    8,946 Posts
    Fri, Aug 31 2012 11:46 PM

    It's good the Wgt released the Uneven Lies in practice mode.  Iron out all the bugs before it comes out in the proper game.

    I still say though, it might make the game too hard for allot of people and I suppose me too. Too much to think of in my slow brain.....lol

    Now saying that....  when wgt fixes some of the issues with it, it might make the game more interesting for allot of people.

    -Roger

  • LOLserver
    3,522 Posts
    Sat, Sep 1 2012 12:28 AM

    mantis0014:

    It's good the Wgt released the Uneven Lies in practice mode.  Iron out all the bugs before it comes out in the proper game.

    I still say though, it might make the game too hard for allot of people and I suppose me too. Too much to think of in my slow brain.....lol

    Now saying that....  when wgt fixes some of the issues with it, it might make the game more interesting for allot of people.

    -Roger

    Hey Roger m8, I was editing my text while you post it. This is the my lat  text:

    Considering the tiers to be used the uneven lie, it ought to be only for TL. Not even many legends are happy with the feature, but it could be created official tournaments for Legends, TM, & Masters with the uneven lie although not for Pros, Amateurs & Hacks.

    Cheers, Eric

  • fantasy1
    1,221 Posts
    Sat, Sep 1 2012 1:31 AM

    Make it for Legends and Tour Legends only

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