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• Hewsey 1,958 Posts

  Sun, Nov 11 2012 9:21 AM

  You may be correct but as the old saying goes quitters never win & winners never quit. Issue is still better than before. As I've said before it will average out for a non quitter, it won't for a quitter. Every one has to be reminded about the uproar over quitters, WGT does something about it yeah yeah yeah it's not perfect, & now we all *** about that. I played a random game the other day with 3 others highest % of the 3 was 65% lol can you guess what happened? Yep by the 5th I was on my own. For most of us I'm guessing we would suggest that all players get a good group of friends  & even a CC that would or should solve the problem.  

   

• SPINO1 5,394 Posts

  Sun, Nov 11 2012 9:37 AM

  Last 100 games taken into consideration would be more suitable i think, instead of the current 30.

• Quijotazo 648 Posts

  Sun, Nov 11 2012 9:57 AM

  If there was an accurate way to establish a truthful percentage analysis on WGT reliability on connection, game errors, flash failures and/or server overload, would any of you give a 100% reputation to WGT then ?  In other words, the system is not fair as it is now since no one really knows how many times a game is prevented by WGT failure or a player's quit.  Mine is presently down to 93% but I finish all my games.  I should have 100%.  I don't have a win-lose complex.  I love this game and site, and sharing with players from all over the World, but this inaccuracy at stating one's true % as "finisher of games" keeps being my only stone in my shoes.  Cheers !

• Quijotazo 648 Posts

  Sun, Nov 11 2012 10:13 AM

  WTG the real quitter no one blames !

  Here, a good example of my previous post.  Blitz on Kiawa, invited by a good friend-player who always finishes his games.  First hole, he starts.  His time runs down to :00 and despite we both are there, right at this second, waiting for any reaction the game is stuck.  Only option :  Close window after more than 7 minutes wait now.  Image taken from our current position.  My percentage was on 93% before this game and now I must be 90%, so ... am I a quitter ?

  

• Glossopade 518 Posts

  Sun, Nov 11 2012 10:23 AM

  thebigeasy707:

  This % system is worse than shyte.

  I don't know which is worse...uneven lies or this % thing because they're both useless.

  Uneven lies TBE ? Sorry Mate.... don't know anything about them and never got involved in them...... 'cause as far as I'm concerned......... uneven lies are somemething from ' The Dark Side' !

• alosso 21,094 Posts

  Sun, Nov 11 2012 10:28 AM

  Quijotazo:

  the system is not fair as it is now since no one really knows how many times a game is prevented by WGT failure or a player's quit.

  The system is "fair" since it treats ev1 the same.

  It's also true because it counts all the unfinished games. No pun intended, but you didn't finish at least two games, probably without own responsibility.

  100% will not be the common number of "good" players, just because sh*t happens. I'm at 93% because of a call to duty for my playing partner and because I chose a wrong set-up for a scheduled tourney game, "quit" on the 1st tee. Add technical problems, connection, computer, this happens.

  That said, it doesn't perform in the desired way because it doesn't isolate the players "responsible" for the unfinished games but puts ev1 in the same box. IMHO the number of collateral damage exceeds the true targets, that's the stone in my shoes.

• Quijotazo 648 Posts

  Sun, Nov 11 2012 10:48 AM

  alosso:

  The system is "fair" since it treats ev1 the same.

  No my friend, it is not, because I have read threads of players who simply maintain theirs between 97% - 100% average all the time.  My personal behavior is 100% but right now I am on 90% and falling  :(

  alosso:

  It's also true because it counts all the unfinished games. No pun intended, but you didn't finish at least two games, probably without own responsibility.

  Not probably my friend.  In my particular case; certainly without own responsibility, since not only I never quit games, but also I am completely updated with flash, clean browser, excellent internet connection and any other good recommendations given by WGT and other kind players like you ;)

  alosso:

  That said, it doesn't perform in the desired way because it doesn't isolate the players "responsible" for the unfinished games but puts ev1 in the same box. IMHO the number of collateral damage exceeds the true targets, that's the stone in my shoes.

  Good point my friend.  Respect to you and cheers ;)

  PS.  I am still stuck in that game.  About 30 minutes wait and WGT doesn't give me any other option but closing window (quit) or quitting the game (another quit), and no one calls WGT a quitter because their % is not shown publicly like ours !  ha ha ...

• renniw52 5,385 Posts

  Sun, Nov 11 2012 11:18 AM

  I started out at 100%, played several AS, stayed at 100%, out of no where went down to 97%, finished all games, have played 10-15 since, finished them all still at 97%. I can't be bothered with it. All members who have played with me, know I finish them all, even the 5 down A$$ whoppings in some matches. Not a stat to get your pants in a wad over, unless you do quit when your losing.

• CerinoDevoti 3,232 Posts

  Sun, Nov 11 2012 12:09 PM

  renniw52:

   Not a stat to get your pants in a wad over, unless you do quit when your losing.

  I think this is the key. Admitted or not there has to be a number of quitters who are not happy their actions now add up to stats anyone can look at and make decisions on game play.

  For me it's just another number on the screen I ignore.

• CerinoDevoti 3,232 Posts

  Sun, Nov 11 2012 12:15 PM

  Glossopade:

  thebigeasy707:

  This % system is worse than shyte.

  I don't know which is worse...uneven lies or this % thing because they're both useless.

  Uneven lies TBE ? Sorry Mate.... don't know anything about them and never got involved in them...... 'cause as far as I'm concerned......... uneven lies are somemething from ' The Dark Side' !

   

  Dark Side???

  Uneven lies IMO are natural lies as the ball rolls to a stop in the fairways. Watching the ball take bounces and kicks off mounds then addressing a perfectly flat lie for one's approach shot is un-natural. Hitting to the up-slope of a bunker then having a perfectly level lie to hit from is un-natural and un-realistic.

  Play some rounds with the uneven lies and really watch your tee shots roll and kick. When you hit you're next shot the ball is realistically represented by the lie of the ground.

  The Uneven Lies are The Bright Side!    ;-)