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Chat with MisterWGT - Post Chat feedback

Thu, Nov 22 2012 7:39 PM (85 replies)

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LeGeNdCrUsHeR

2,067 Posts

Wed, Nov 21 2012 9:35 AM

And.....

Thank you Chad for the shotout!

And.....

Thank you Pizza for selecting my question!

And.....

Thank you WGT team for the free rental weekend!

And.....

Thank you everyone that has been putting this community into a happy state!

And.....

Still disappointed that I can't get the lime green shirt that says pimp across the back!

alosso

21,083 Posts

Thu, Nov 22 2012 12:22 AM

Here's an inofficial timeline, incomplete, subjective, without any guarantees.
Alas, I tried to name each given subject.

I quoted some of MrWGT's remarks in ""

0:00 quiet mode "awsome", "funny"
2:50 intro
4:00 Topic: News
4:00 twitch tv
4:50 mobile version
6:05 Merion
7:20 equipment
9:00 sandbagging
(11:00 map of key points)
if higher tier quits, lower tier will not be awarded the win
11:20 completion %%
colour code system, player's quality vs. tendency to quit
100 rolling games counting
practice rounds no longer counted
(13:11 map of key points)
13:30 HIO challenge
15:00 Topic: four prepared questions
WGTpizza collected and sent to MrWGT
15:20 1) custom bag
default ball - no automatic guess & selection
18:50 2) q about more CC options: Chad announces multiround CTTH
new features acc. to CC needs.
20:30 3) free rental weekend to come
21:33 4) spectator mode
24:05 Topic: live Q&A
25:06 "stay tuned"
25:30 "interesting"
25:55 delicious water (drinks)
26:00 Merion - missing papers for a secure answer
27:00 (how to use) twitch - form post by WGT coming up
27:40 no news on other courses to come
28:00 free rental weekend - level q - no answer
28:35 CC RGs - "cool"
28:50 Merion launch after the Masters
29:20 Champ. mode in CC tourneys - easy
29:45 Caddie discussion - dialogue welcome
30:45 Avatars moving on tees
31:16 (silence)
31:30 fourball stroke / bestball change possible? Roadmap candidate
32:10 (reading fast chat)
32:19 tee-off modification timer on MP start "interesting" "dive into in detail" "i'm curious" "all I can say is a lot of this we should" "please talk about this in the forums" "we read it" "community manager definitely reads it" "build up a chain to our partners" "discussions like that and ideas like that please communicate in forums"
33:10 BoH with Oakmont: apparently contractual limits prevent this

I quit this work prematurely because the subject of 32'19" proved to me how useless this is. In honestly commenting the apparent tremendous imperfection in the work of the community manager I'd certainly break the guidelines.

Pointing out to the time spans 0 - 2:50', 24:05 - 27' plus 20secs after 31':
These constitute 6 wasted minutes = 18% in the time monitored, x10 for WGT = 1 working hour, x10000(?) = 1000 wasted hours of loyal WGT clients.
Downside for the company: We didn't spend crs in balls in that time.

Hint: WGT better do a better job and prepare a professional session next time.

SHRUDE

5,835 Posts

Thu, Nov 22 2012 12:46 AM

YankeeJim:
The 4 questions Chad answered were well presented. I'd rather see another half hour of questions answered like this instead of a very confusing and distracting Q & A. Take the questions directly from the appropriate thread established for that very reason, one with questions only and no discussion in the thread.

This is correct absolutley, we dont need a Q&A we just need all the pending rtequests and questions that have been left hanging for SO LONG addressed.

Personally i felt that all the posts we have made in all these "MrWGT Chat" threads ASKING for our questions was a sham. Ignored.

NONE of them were addressed. Sorry, maybe 1 , perhaps 2 of them.

The look on Chads face when posed with one of these 'ageing'; questions was one of surprise. He knew nothing of it.

His "road map", obviously consists of very litle community requests.

Its amazing what the eyes can portray.

I appreciate that my CC questions were addressed, but the generic question posed 'on my behalf' did NOT ask the specific questions that not only I, but many others have been wanting for so long. CC tiered tourneys, Owner priviledges etc/

We need access to the Product Manager or HIS sidekick. Pizza boys just aint cutting it. IMO

If anyone is intrested I took 'miniutes of the whole discussion, complete with screen shots.

There is a lot of text, I didnt transcribe word for word, but i didnt embelish anything either. In fact rewinding to make sure i understood the answer or the 'gist' of the answer.

As I put these minutes together i also had placed some of my own 'thoughts' as well.

If i get a few people who understand the transcription isnt word for word and wont flame me for that and/ or other possible errors, i'll create a new thread of the 'minutes'.

Why this hasnt already been done, by the Pizza boy or someone else, is also an unanswered question.

is THIS Pizza boy?

I appreciate Chad taking the time to do this. I appreciate the effort and acknowledge the possible sincere effort to establish a Community feedback/ update venue.

It obviously is a good step in the right direction.

I want to thank Pizza boy for his ..effort with this and those involved in putting chad live to us as well.

SHRUDE

5,835 Posts

Thu, Nov 22 2012 12:58 AM

saltiresfan:

Perhaps someone could clarify.

"If a higher tier player forfeits a game, the lower tiered player will not be awarded the win"

Chad went on to say "or the credits."

This suggests to me that any higher tiered player losing in MP challenge can simply forfeit and save his credits. Surely not the case?

Its not abouit MP Challenge games or 'credits'

Currently a Lower Tiered player can enter a MP with a player of a higher tier.
The high tier member forfeits the game on the first tee.

WGT recognises the lower tier as being of better 'abiliyy' and instantly lowers the average of the lower tiered player.
Do this enough times and a eg; Tour Pro can get to Master without lifting a club.

This was implemented to combat sandbaggers. Those apparently of better skill get their average lowered FAR MORE than completing well under on Stroke games.

Unfortunately it has now created a new anomaly.

SHRUDE

5,835 Posts

Thu, Nov 22 2012 1:01 AM

alosso:
Hint:

Thanks for your effort here alosso!

The transcript i have goes into more detail... with many quoted comments, if anyone is interested.

saltiresfan

2,266 Posts

Thu, Nov 22 2012 1:20 AM

SHRUDE:
Its not abouit MP Challenge games or 'credits'

Currently a Lower Tiered player can enter a MP with a player of a higher tier.
The high tier member forfeits the game on the first tee.

WGT recognises the lower tier as being of better 'abiliyy' and instantly lowers the average of the lower tiered player.
Do this enough times and a eg; Tour Pro can get to Master without lifting a club.

This was implemented to combat sandbaggers. Those apparently of better skill get their average lowered FAR MORE than completing well under on Stroke games.

Unfortunately it has now created a new anomaly.

The question is when the forfeit kicks in. Is it only before the first shot is hit or is it anywhere in the 9/18 holes?

I'm sure you can see the anomaly.

LeGeNdCrUsHeR

2,067 Posts

Thu, Nov 22 2012 1:21 AM

SHRUDE:

Its not abouit MP Challenge games or 'credits'

Currently a Lower Tiered player can enter a MP with a player of a higher tier.
The high tier member forfeits the game on the first tee.

WGT recognises the lower tier as being of better 'abiliyy' and instantly lowers the average of the lower tiered player.
Do this enough times and a eg; Tour Pro can get to Master without lifting a club.

This was implemented to combat sandbaggers. Those apparently of better skill get their average lowered FAR MORE than completing well under on Stroke games.

Unfortunately it has now created a new anomaly.

And is on the fix tablet for the next update, as Chad addressed in the chat. There were a few things that were addressed that people have been requesting for a long time. I for one, am please with the fact that there is a new course being venue'd in the next couple of updates.

Now, there are some larger pictures that WGT needs to look at. We all can agree upon that. As far as the "studdery meter" goes, that's on flash and the operators computer. Even the best computers will have studders. CC owner options are a must, and I can assume they will be addressed in the next chat. Game play options/formats for CC's is another thing that should be addressed.

Personally, I am glad WGT is still in beta. Because beta means it is still in the works and is not a finished product. I see this company trying their hearts out to keep everyone happy. Look, we all love this game and we all hate this game. It's a situation we all know is there. We as a community need to help WGT grow and the only way I see this happening is through constructive criticism, this is a good thing.

As for forum/issue resolve, I to think that WGT needs more help. On the same token, we have a lot of knowledge in a variety of thing in this community. Put some of that to use and help fellow members until WGT can find the right person.

BTW, WGTIcon and WGTPizza have been doing a great job and I for one appreciate all your hard work and dedication to this community! Keep up the good work.

SHRUDE

5,835 Posts

Thu, Nov 22 2012 1:49 AM

saltiresfan:
The question is when the forfeit kicks in. Is it only before the first shot is hit or is it anywhere in the 9/18 holes?

anywhere in the game. it is easily exploited.

LeGeNdCrUsHeR:
BTW, WGTIcon and WGTPizza have been doing a great job and I for one appreciate all your hard work and dedication to this community!

Dont get me wrong, i appreciate these guys work, we need 10 more of them.

thebigeasy707

5,885 Posts

Thu, Nov 22 2012 2:20 AM

I watched the WGT live chat and thought Chadders did a decent job considering it was his 1st attempt. He showed little nerves and it came across as being a quite open and informal broadcast.

Sure....he'll gather more dust than golden globes but it's a technological milestone from their 1st irc chat sessions...or in golfing terms...from hickory to graphite.

Either way...good job WGT.