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Mon, Jan 7 2013 8:57 PM (10 replies)
  • WGTpizza
    1,656 Posts
    Fri, Jan 4 2013 10:32 AM

    Ducati916:
    but, since you opened yourself up for it...I can't resist.

    Hah, fair enough... it's a shame, though, because I have a lot of patience for everyone here. I will keep being patient and just hope that you all show me the same.

    I'd be glad to speak one on one with anyone who has "little patience" for me. I'd love to learn what I did, or am doing, to lower their patience with me. I'm not flawless.

     

    Stay classy,

    -WGTpizza

  • Ducati916
    1,116 Posts
    Fri, Jan 4 2013 10:37 AM

    WGTpizza:

    Ducati916:
    but, since you opened yourself up for it...I can't resist.

    Hah, fair enough... it's a shame, though, because I have a lot of patience for everyone here. I will keep being patient and just hope that you all show me the same.

    I'd be glad to speak one on one with anyone who has "little patience" for me. I'd love to learn what I did, or am doing, to lower their patience with me. I'm not flawless.

     

    Stay classy,

    -WGTpizza

    it was a joke Pizza...don't take it seriously.....Happy New Year.

  • WGTpizza
    1,656 Posts
    Fri, Jan 4 2013 10:38 AM

    Ducati916:
    it was a joke Pizza...don't take it seriously.....Happy New Year.

    Well, ok! My offer still stands :)

     

    Stay classy,

    -WGTpizza

  • BeachedMulligan
    1,238 Posts
    Fri, Jan 4 2013 10:40 AM

    This one is full of laughs. 

    I don't have anything to contribute though. 

     

     

  • phiber
    2,795 Posts
    Fri, Jan 4 2013 10:41 AM

    I think what WGT has done in an attempt to get Sandbaggers somewhat under control was probably a good step.  The only drawback I see to it is that it somewhat cheapens the Legend Tier as some people are using that practice as a means of moving up to Legend without having to shoot the actual qualifications for Legend.  They aren't necessarily sandbaggers and it is what it is, but it slaps those of us in the face that worked hard to shoot the necessary scores and rounds to actually achieve that tier.

    just sayin.

  • JaLaBar
    1,254 Posts
    Fri, Jan 4 2013 11:19 AM

    I honestly am of a mind that average should no longer be the main measurement to determine tier.  Tier should be determined as follows:

    Step one: Tweak the system so that, from this point on, ALL winnings are tracked as career winnings.

    Step two:  Establish career plateaus whereupon one tiers.  Once you win x credits at y tier, you advance to the next tier.  Keep an average component, but seperate from the money component... an either/or thing.

    With the current system, what you have done is to clean up MPC sandbaggers... great.  But as was mentioned in the other threat, but about Blitz or... hell, what about the player that lays low and just wins RGs or Monthlies or tier based-weeklies.

    I really think you need a system that differentiates between the  credit seeking sand-baggers and those that just want to play.  Does the new system take into account those that play above their tier in alt, or Blitz, or CTTH?  This is better than what we had (no controls whatsoever) but something that was evenly weighted between stroke play average and total winnings at tier would be the best way to go.

  • stevietwotimes
    1,327 Posts
    Fri, Jan 4 2013 11:25 AM

    anyone for tennis ????

  • Steve2golf
    930 Posts
    Fri, Jan 4 2013 11:28 AM

    I have said it before and will say it again, WGT since you have now cheapened the once great accomplishment of reaching Legend status, the very least you can do is give them all the access to the equipment to play it.

  • forcefan
    279 Posts
    Fri, Jan 4 2013 11:36 AM

    WGTpizza:

    Ducati916:
    but, since you opened yourself up for it...I can't resist.

    Hah, fair enough... it's a shame, though, because I have a lot of patience for everyone here. I will keep being patient and just hope that you all show me the same.

    I'd be glad to speak one on one with anyone who has "little patience" for me. I'd love to learn what I did, or am doing, to lower their patience with me. I'm not flawless.

     

    Stay classy,

    -WGTpizza

    In relation to WGTpizza's role & treatment...

    WGT is an e-commerce organization. In my last job I was with an e-commerce organization. I responded to an average of 60+ emails/day, many from people passionate (some overly so) and complaining about one thing or another relating (or not) to the charitable causes the company generated funding for. I loved it for as long as the company maintained solid ethics. I was free to express as I saw fit, disagree with the company line if I felt the powers that be crossed a line. I had as much freedom to express my personal opinion as I've ever had or probably ever will in my working life. Then the company went over to the dark side...

    I refused to become a forum/social media moderator for the company for just the reasons that manifest in these forums every day. One of the saddest effects of the anonymity the internet provides is that some people will post things they would never say to another person eye-to-eye, face-to-face, one-on-one. I much prefer speaking to a person who has a beef. Email is next best, IMO, in that we can type a draft and wait a bit before clicking send. This allows for a bit of thoughtfulness; allows frustration & anger to subside, perspective to make an entrance.

    Long way around: moderators have very difficult jobs. I agree 100% with YJ; glad to see him point out to Pizza that he is - in these forums - a face of WGT. Pizza, don't ever forget this fact. That you allow your personality to enter into some of your posts is, in my mind, most admirable and speaks to the freedom your bosses provide you, or that you simply take! As you well know, the downside in doing so is that you may inadvertently provide fodder for those with major gripes to escalate. And, your job is on the line, I'm quite sure! Being in a position as a face of the company is a ton of responsibility. 

    Folks, moderators must keep secrets for the company they work for. Surely this is understandable and even obvious? 

    As to the situation wherein members are jumping tiers - particularly to Legend - without grinding out the scores over time, I'm not in favor. But, if it works for some folks, go for it. If the policy helps to cut down on the fleecing of unwitting members, more is the better.

    Carry on..

     

  • Lyrac
    177 Posts
    Fri, Jan 4 2013 11:38 AM

    Tennis? fifteen love and all that? waaaay too much love for a game where we like to evicerate each other endlessly lol.

    Anyway, I decided to move on and see how it goes if anyones intrested which i spect not, but I had to say something so that I could squeeze in a good word for WgtPizza who is not heavy or my brother but isnt as bad as before i took my own advice (reading this mbageese?) and got to know him a bit more. but this only stand Pizza, if, well, you know what you promised :-)

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