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why so many WD in RGs?

Thu, Feb 28 2013 3:32 PM (22 replies)
  • Joshnosh
    548 Posts
    Wed, Feb 27 2013 8:32 AM

    I guess it makes sense, but for me its fun to try your best, if these ball costs are ruining the game its WGT fault.

    what is ridiculous is that in real life tournaments if a player wins they could buy enough balls with the winnings to fill a swimming pool, here u can buy 1 sleeve wtf is that about! 

     

  • PUHOLINO
    1,189 Posts
    Wed, Feb 27 2013 8:51 AM

    jsweetcr:
    you sign up for a ready go, but don't play it immediately, and it fills up pretty fast, the 12 hour clock starts(assuming you actually get 12 hours) and you don't make it back in time to actually play. My guess is this would show as a withdraw, maybe not, but just throwing out some scenarios

    It doesn't. it only shows up as WD if you actually WD. If you forget to play it or simply save&quit and never continue (although I don't know why would one do that, besides to pi$$ off the rest of the field by making them wait 12 hours), your name will never show up on the leaderboard.

    I rarely quit RGs (although I did do it today). The only times I do it is when I have an occasional nightmare start and I know I can no longer get close, partly cause I'm livid, but mostly not to waste any more ball life.

  • jsweetcr
    1,209 Posts
    Wed, Feb 27 2013 9:04 AM

    PUHOLINO:
    It doesn't. it only shows up as WD if you actually WD. If you forget to play it or simply save&quit and never continue (although I don't know why would one do that, besides to pi$ off the rest of the field by making them wait 12 hours), your name will never show up on the leaderboard.

    thanks for clearing that up. I was never sure of that.  It only happened to me once because I had to step away from RG because some stuff was going on and I couldn't get back to it right away. I got back with like an hour left til close so just squeaked it in

  • mohuyu
    891 Posts
    Wed, Feb 27 2013 5:36 PM

    I'm unlikely to post a score outside the top 10 in smaller stakes RGs. If I recall correctly the new balls last 120 hits, so you lose at least 41cr on 10th and worse in 100cr RGs. 5th is only 59cr net profit, which shows you just how pointless 100cr RGs are nowadays.

  • oneputtdavid
    1,337 Posts
    Wed, Feb 27 2013 7:46 PM

    mohuyu:

    I'm unlikely to post a score outside the top 10 in smaller stakes RGs. If I recall correctly the new balls last 120 hits, so you lose at least 41cr on 10th and worse in 100cr RGs. 5th is only 59cr net profit, which shows you just how pointless 100cr RGs are nowadays.

    Intelligent and comprehensive reply! Should answer OP's question, point blank!    tnx "mo" 

     

  • PUHOLINO
    1,189 Posts
    Thu, Feb 28 2013 3:30 AM

    mohuyu:

    I'm unlikely to post a score outside the top 10 in smaller stakes RGs. If I recall correctly the new balls last 120 hits, so you lose at least 41cr on 10th and worse in 100cr RGs. 5th is only 59cr net profit, which shows you just how pointless 100cr RGs are nowadays.

     

    Although, when I look at your numbers, we actually lose more with every WD than we save on balls. Cause even if you play all 9 and place 30th, you still get more back than you'd save by withdrawing after 3 holes. I guess I usually WD because of frustration and just rationalize it to myself by saying it's cause I'm saving balls.

  • mohuyu
    891 Posts
    Thu, Feb 28 2013 4:22 AM

    mohuyu:
    If I recall correctly the new balls last 120 hits, so you lose at least 41cr on 10th and worse in 100cr RGs. 5th is only 59cr net profit, which shows you just how pointless 100cr RGs are nowadays.

    Just realised the numbers in my above post are wrong. You actually lose a third of the aforementioned amount ~14cr per 9. 

     

  • chrisironsbones
    3,524 Posts
    Thu, Feb 28 2013 4:44 AM

    tiffer67:

    I rarely withdraw from RGs no matter how badly the round is going, that said there are some where frustration with myself takes over and it becomes pointless to continue. If you have thousands and thousands of credits the loss of your stake is immaterial and many would rather move on to the next one.

    If I'm playing St Andrews ready go and only score -5  for front I will withdraw because you need better than 59 to win your money back there.  Some courses you know you need a perfect score to win any $$, and as balls are so expensive people tend to save their hits by withdrawing.  But if i withdraw from any ready go, I will instantly play a matchplay challenge round to win the entrance fee back.

    I got to #4 in Whistler ready go yesterday and FOUR PUTTED and double bogeyed.  Instead of withdrawing like i might have in past I carried on, which was right decision as i managed 2 eagles (even on #12!) and managed a 58 which I never, ever saw coming after what I saw on #4.  I think I was laughing so much at the green of #4 I was in good mood instead of frustration..LOL

     

  • PUHOLINO
    1,189 Posts
    Thu, Feb 28 2013 4:51 AM

    mohuyu:
    Just realised the numbers in my above post are wrong. You actually lose a third of the aforementioned amount ~14cr per 9. 

     

    Just did my own math myself. 550 credit balls (per sleeve) cost you 1,53 credits per hit, so a 9 hole round with 100% GIR only costs you 26 credits on a par 35 (17 hits) and 27,5 credits on a par 36 (18 hits). Of course you then need to add 1,53 credits per every missed GIR, but even a bad round should never cost you more than 35 credits per 9 holes.

    So you lose less if you continue, place up to 30th and get half of your entry fee back, than if you WD.

  • PUHOLINO
    1,189 Posts
    Thu, Feb 28 2013 4:55 AM

    chrisironsbones:
    I got to #4 in Whistler ready go yesterday and FOUR PUTTED and double bogeyed.  Instead of withdrawing like i might have in past I carried on, which was right decision as i managed 2 eagles (even on #12!) and managed a 58 which I never, ever saw coming after what I saw on #4.  I think I was laughing so much at the green of #4 I was in good mood instead of frustration..LOL

     

    I may have come across as critical at times, but this is an admirable attitude and you fully deserved that great score (great considering what happened on #4) in the end. A little relaxation can get you a long way in this game. Hat's off!

    Edit: And hole #4 is never a lot of fun if you're pin high and to the side (especially right of it). But it's a fairly easy birdie if you hit a little longer approach, but in the "pin line". Of course, you need to disregard the front view and only look at the reverse. But I'm sure you know that better than most people here.

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