rmchangin:.I do find it ironic that someone who was called out months ago for using a cheat program is now posting how to spot cheats....and to do in a way that piogen holes most of the players on WGT as cheats is just mind blowing
First of all , I don't mind saying that I am the one that wrote the post on WGTLS Greg is talking about. Second, my name was never brought up months ago for using a cheat program. If it was please show me here. And no, I hadn't just downloaded it. I have had it for about a month. I used it in practice mode to time the different speed settings you can use. And I used it with a friend so we could see if there were any definitive tells of the program.
Then in that post, no where does it say or imply that if you are greyed out for more than 4 seconds your a cheat. Nor in this post does it say anything about players taking a long time to set up and execute the shot. Sure I wrote it to educate the players on what to look for. But I also wrote it so players were more educated on how it worked and didn't accuse people of cheating just because they saw a players menu greyed out for a long period of time a couple time. This post has also showed where it is probable where and when the greyed out menu will be that way. I have stated a few times it's the inconsistency of the greyed out menu you should be looking for. Here is something I just added:
I didn't start this post to create a witch hunt. I just wanted to educate people on what to look for. And maybe learn a few things myself with other people's Intel. I really hope this educates people as to not accuse someone so quick. I say take notes on players that look suspicious and if your sure they are cheating, take care of it the way you feel is right. Maybe if we start naming and shaming, others will back that person up and say they saw the same thing in that persons swing. Then maybe people will be afraid to use the program and stop using it in here. IMO there is no reason that the menu area should be greyed out for more than 5-6 seconds, unless it is a short wedge shot, pitch, chip or a putt, where the player counts avatar movements. For all the other shots, we change clubs before we would be counting avatar movements. Plus we are all good enough and have been playing this game long enough or use shot pal to know how much we need to take off a meter. And for those that hold their meter longer than a count of 2, should maybe stop holding it so long (because there really isn't any reason you should hold it longer than that) so they don't get accused.
One thing I have learned in life about people and myself included is, when caught in a lie or something we shouldn't have done, we get angry, we lash back at the accusers and try to turn it around on them. Not accusing you Greg. Just Sayn
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Jeff
Feel free all to go and look at this post all. Surprisingly, this post has been real respectful so far. Seems to have stirred up more over here than there.
Here is the link: