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Wed, May 2 2018 6:36 PM (17 replies)
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  • MBaggese
    15,375 Posts
    Wed, Sep 18 2013 9:35 AM

    bredboston:
    What i find interesting is that my complaint was that the wind didnt move my ball an inch and people are assuming that i am complaining about where the ball landed

     

    Actually it did...looked to me based off the launch angle, appeared to move 7-10 feet..

     

    Edit:

    Watch camera 1...your shot launches just  left of center of the trap and moves to the green.

     

    Do you recall where your aim point was?

     

    Additionally we have to factor in the low precision of the level 7 clubs as well.

     

    FWIW, when I join a Starter Gear only tourney in low winds at Beth or KI, I don't even move the aim point, unless it's to find a spot on the green...but not to adjust for wind;)

  • BushcraftOnFire
    3,325 Posts
    Wed, Sep 18 2013 10:20 AM

    MBaggese:

    Actually it did...looked to me based off the launch angle, appeared to move 7-10 feet..

    Watch camera 1...your shot launches just  left of center of the trap and moves to the green.

    I have to agree with MBaggese. You can clearly see the ball move to the left. With the wind blowing at almost a 45 degree angle at 8 MPH.. it's not going to move the ball much more than a few feet. I would have been JUST RIGHT of the ding personally.. I mean almost touching the line.

    Just My $.02

    D

  • bredboston
    11 Posts
    Wed, Sep 18 2013 10:24 AM

    Hmm, i guess it did move but it seems so little compared to what i have had it do on other ding shots.

    Where it landed was the aim point

    I will stop worrying about wind ;)

     

    Thanks!

  • 2DAMFLASHY
    1,141 Posts
    Wed, Sep 18 2013 10:38 AM

    ahhhh,,SORRY man.. 

    i was reading other stuff...an got you mixed up with a diff dude...that was cry'n...and blaming the game for all his faults.. 

    ... 

    now..mabey this mite help...

    andyson ..or somewhere in a thread ..illustrated this point.... 

    how much wind you play on one hole will be simular but not the same on a different hole or course.. 

    for instance... 15mph side wind on B-page ...lets say will blow over 10 yards ( made that up) ... the same 15 may blow over 15 yards on R-st george.. 

    plus what i have found..if the pin is to far right or left... you don'tt have to allow as much for wind as if it was in the center.. 

    i also always chek the behind the green view too... to make a wind decision... some times what you see from the tee is very different seen from reverse.. 

    again sorry ... part of what i said is gold... find ya a pal... ALT SHOT is funn..an lota folks will explain the shot they took for ya ..while they wait their turn... 

    ...don't take ALT shot to serious... some do,, an can be real jerks and quit an junk at the lower levels... 

    peace ... 

     

     

  • MBaggese
    15,375 Posts
    Wed, Sep 18 2013 11:56 AM

    bredboston:
    Where it landed was the aim point

     

    If that's the case, I'd attribute it to the precision of your clubs...you'll see quite a few "WTF" shots as you become more consistent, but better gear will lessen things greatly.

    Best of luck!

  • gr8flbob
    592 Posts
    Fri, Sep 20 2013 2:38 PM

    Folks, the wind value you see indicated is not (NOT) a steady value --> for either strength or direction! You see only the average speed and direction. 

    Both in real life, and built into the game physics of WGT, wind is a variable. My gut feel after many thousands of shots on WGT is that wind direction varies by 10 or 15 degrees either way, and that the strength displayed can vary by up to 50% either way at the extremes..

    Pile that on top of the variables built into the performance of your particular equipment set, and the 'circle of error' increases for any given shot if it has significant 'air time' on the way to a landing.

    Example: Wind 10 MPH shown coming from 1:30 on a clock-face (right headwind); wind indicator wiggling moderately. I figure the actual wind strength can range mostly 8 - 12 mph, with lulls of 5 mph and gusts to 15 mph at the extremes. That incoming wind angle can vary (centered on 45 degrees) from 30 (mostly HEAD wind) to 60 degrees (mostly SIDE wind)! 

    Add that huge variability in 'effective wind' to the uncertainties of your equipment set AND the impact of the terrain in the landing area (already addressed by previous responses) ... and we shouldn't be surprised to to see some of strange results described.

    When planning the shot, anticipate the worst, hope for the best, and put the shot to a safe spot on the fairway or green. Execute to the best of your ability, and deal with the results.

     

  • repoocllib
    1 Posts
    Wed, May 2 2018 11:57 AM

    Things have been getting goofy as of late. played a 160 iron with a 15mph tailwind - went 152. 9 mph crosswind knocked a 175 iron down 20 yds. 20mph tailwind 145 iron went 144.  That's just a few examples from last week. Hard to adjust when you have no idea what the effect of the wind.

  • DoctorLarry
    4,320 Posts
    Wed, May 2 2018 6:36 PM

    repoocllib:

    Things have been getting goofy as of late. played a 160 iron with a 15mph tailwind - went 152. 9 mph crosswind knocked a 175 iron down 20 yds. 20mph tailwind 145 iron went 144.  That's just a few examples from last week. Hard to adjust when you have no idea what the effect of the wind.

    Are all of those with different elevation changes, same spin, etc?  It certainly matters, as you surely have found by now.

    Are the club distances you are saying the "average" distances assigned to the club of values you have mapped in practice.  For me, the better club averages are fairly close, but there is some variation.

    And then there is just the randomness built into the VEM.  Vexes me sometimes as well!  After some shots, I say out loud (how did that ball get over there??"

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