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Fri, Oct 11 2013 3:26 PM (20 replies)
  • geraldlarousse
    1,986 Posts
    Tue, Oct 8 2013 4:27 PM

    MBaggese:

    WGTicon:
    same winds for all will not work because then someone would leak winds out and give big advantage to others.

     

    I see it no more of an advantage than getting tail winds on par 5's and long par 4's...heck, even on shorter par 4's where (assuming Legend tees) if I'm hitting a Cleveland, I have an advantage over a player hitting his R11 PW or 9 iron.

    Yeah Mike the excuses are not flying here. Have not a clue what Icon is talking about.

    I would say they can't do anything to change it,,, or do not have the programmers to do so.

    Anytime, and i mean anytime the wind is not the same for everyone playing....than the playing field is not level.

    Anyone that can not see that needs to seek medical attention......lmao!

    Leaking out the wind to other players?.....lol...I guess your going to hit the shot for them too??

    Crazy funny....   :-)

  • MBaggese
    15,367 Posts
    Tue, Oct 8 2013 5:14 PM

    geraldlarousse:
    Yeah Mike the excuses are not flying here. Have not a clue what Icon is talking about.

     

    I could see in a high wind tourney...knowing that all par 5's were headwinds...really no reason to carry a 3wood, as a 4th wedge would be a better option...but since I have just 3 wedges and 1 wood...wouldn't change my thoughts a bit, nor would I care if everyone carried different clubs because they knew the wind set ahead of time.

    Bottom line, the best players will consistently shoot a good score...whether they know the winds ahead of time or not...heck, even our top players WD from low wind BPB RG's...I can't even think of a reason to carry a 3 wood on that front 9 RG...lol.

  • geraldlarousse
    1,986 Posts
    Tue, Oct 8 2013 5:56 PM

    MBaggese:

    geraldlarousse:
    Yeah Mike the excuses are not flying here. Have not a clue what Icon is talking about.

     

    I could see in a high wind tourney...knowing that all par 5's were headwinds...really no reason to carry a 3wood, as a 4th wedge would be a better option...but since I have just 3 wedges and 1 wood...wouldn't change my thoughts a bit, nor would I care if everyone carried different clubs because they knew the wind set ahead of time.

    Bottom line, the best players will consistently shoot a good score...whether they know the winds ahead of time or not...heck, even our top players WD from low wind BPB RG's...I can't even think of a reason to carry a 3 wood on that front 9 RG...lol.

    Exactly Mike, knowing the wind direction for a certain hole means nothing at all. One little mess up on the meter and its done anyway.

    But.... to have one player get all head winds and the other player getting all tail winds.... now that my friend is not right. And.........that is what has been happening forever.

    Like i said earlier, does not matter if you know what the winds are. You still have to hit the shot! I think if half of them played real golf they might understand what i'm saying.

    Then again maybe not....lol.

  • paul167
    154 Posts
    Fri, Oct 11 2013 12:38 AM

    in real golf the wind changes too and every group play in different winds, you would know this if you played real golf, quit whinging and whack the ball

  • WGTicon
    12,511 Posts
    Fri, Oct 11 2013 3:13 AM

    Andyson:
    I've heard this said before and never quite understood how it would be a big advantage.

    So maybe you find out you won't need a 3W and can add a 4th wedge?  Is that 4th wedge really a big advantage over the R11 PW or another wedge in our bag?  It may have been true when we had the G10s or Raptures but now?   Or is there a laser hybrid only a few know of?  What is it Icon?

    I would say bigger issue is par 3's where one can practice those; especially tail winds.

    it's also important for few par 5's that can be reached in 2 with big tail winds or certain short par 4's on STA.

    -wgticon

  • overtheedge
    5,885 Posts
    Fri, Oct 11 2013 4:25 AM

    andyson:
    WGTicon:
    same winds for all will not work because then someone would leak winds out and give big advantage to others.

    Agreed Andy. This makes absolutely no sense what-so-ever.

    andyson:
      Or is there a laser hybrid only a few know of?  What is it Icon?

    Yes,,,,what is it "exactly" icon.

    btw; GREAT ideas oldbones.

  • gedi83
    277 Posts
    Fri, Oct 11 2013 9:45 AM

    Receiving head winds, especially in Best of Par 5 might be annoying, but if you play it often enough, good and bad luck will cancel out pretty much. Anyway luck plays a significant role in golf (long puts, occasional hole-in-ones).

    The 12 hour delay is pretty much arbitrary, but I thought its main reason was not to let some good players to enter every single ready-go and thus give worse players a chance, wasn't it?

    It's true that sometimes people wait to see the scores before playing but it's really not clear it helps more than hurts (depends on one's psychological control). E.g. it may help to concentrate to win if scores are poor, but may demotivate if they are crazy good. Then again, everybody can wait... Also, if somebody wants to WD instead of posting a poor score, I don't see a problem with that, but I guess people WD as frequently or even more so before scores are revealed (otherwise it would be hard to explain occasional crazy situations when there are fewer than 30 posted scores and even the worst possible score gets back some credits).

  • MBaggese
    15,367 Posts
    Fri, Oct 11 2013 2:21 PM

    paul167:

    in real golf the wind changes too and every group play in different winds, you would know this if you played real golf, quit whinging and whack the ball

    You would also know that if we teed off at the same time...i/e like stroke/Match or and other Multiplayer game, we'd have the same winds...here, and in real life.

     

    When was the last time you and a buddy played 18 together and had completely different winds on each hole?

  • MBaggese
    15,367 Posts
    Fri, Oct 11 2013 2:28 PM

    WGTicon:

    I would say bigger issue is par 3's where one can practice those; especially tail winds.

    it's also important for few par 5's that can be reached in 2 with big tail winds or certain short par 4's on STA.

    -wgticon

    But Icon...for the most part, RG players know how to hit with/against the wind...or they soon learn to not play RG's;)

    Besides, 75% of Open RG players are level 90-sh and above...I really don't care if a TP carries 5 wedges, etc, or a TL changes his bag to compensate for winds...you can't really think the playing field is even in a high wind RG with one player hitting downwind tee shots and wedges/short irons to the green is the same as a player hitting driver and woods/long irons into the greens for the same holes.

     

    We all know missing the ding with a 9 iron vs missing the ding with a 5 iron is a 20 foot difference in the putt.

  • geraldlarousse
    1,986 Posts
    Fri, Oct 11 2013 3:19 PM

    MBaggese:

    paul167:

    in real golf the wind changes too and every group play in different winds, you would know this if you played real golf, quit whinging and whack the ball

    You would also know that if we teed off at the same time...i/e like stroke/Match or and other Multiplayer game, we'd have the same winds...here, and in real life.

     

    When was the last time you and a buddy played 18 together and had completely different winds on each hole?

    LOL,,, i wasn't going to answer that. But......since you did thank you. Still don't know what he was thinking.  ;)

    Edit: Depending on the course and tourney,, if you were to get unfavorable winds...You have zero chance of winning.

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