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Thu, Aug 14 2014 10:08 AM (36 replies)
  • MBaggese
    15,367 Posts
    Mon, Dec 16 2013 10:19 AM

    PugsAce:
    Isn't that right, Bags? ;)

     

    Uh...I'm still picturing the balloon...you say something else? ;)

  • hpurey
    11,505 Posts
    Mon, Dec 16 2013 12:31 PM

  • pdxdriver
    2,628 Posts
    Mon, Dec 16 2013 12:49 PM

    ithurtswnipee:
    The ominous Philedelphia experimet
    That was a good film,i enjoyed watching it but could that really ever happen??

  • Proruff
    94 Posts
    Mon, Dec 16 2013 2:54 PM

    My 2 cents worth on gravity:

    I always thought that there was no such thing as gravity; in actual fact, the earth sucks.

    You know how to fly, don't you?  Just throw yourself at the ground and miss.....(Douglas Adams....RIP).

  • alexk345
    1,148 Posts
    Mon, Dec 16 2013 3:12 PM

    I was expecting better response...not the effect of gravity ...how gravity happens.

    Any object of mass attracts each other. But why?. Because of iron core? or rotation of iron core at center?

    Then astroid may not have any gravity at all.

    I want to know 1kg how much it weigh in lagrange points in l4 and l5 

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagrangian_point

    http://josephshoer.com/blog/2012/11/whats-the-deal-with-lagrange-points/

  • ithurtswnipee
    891 Posts
    Mon, Dec 16 2013 6:02 PM

    PugsAce:

     Imagine the Earth and its atmosphere spinning against the 'fabric of space'... a lot of forces being generated by this interaction. However, because the mass of the planet is so great, the 'discharge energy' has been supplanted by a greater attractive force and a diminished repelling force. This remaining effect is what is commonly called 'gravity'.

    Isn't that right, Bags? ;)

    Pugs,

    You are implying there is mass in the ' fabric of space' in relation to the balloons static electricity holding it to the ceiling. If that was so, our atmosphere would slowly be eroded rubbing against this supposed fabric. Because of its larger encompassing mass around the earth the laws of thermodynamics would take over and friction from the mass pressing in all directions against us would erode the atmosphere. Like a lollipop in your mouth.

    Why do you think that in all adaptations of real space travel there would be a rotating wheel attached to the ship? I believe I saw an example of this in a movie called "mission to mars". The rotating part of the ship acted as Centrifugal force, which gave the inhabitants the feel of gravity. For better or worse it (gravity) is what is holding us on the planet not centrifugal force. We would have to be able to walk against the sky to have centrifugal force to keep us down against it.

    Then there is the electrical force you suggest. If that were in fact the force holding us here we would have to have a certain mass of metal in our bodies to have "magnetism" the electrical force holding us to the planet. We do have iron in our blood so you may be on to something there. However it does not explain why a ten pound bowling ball and a 1 pound rock will hit the ground at the same time dropped from the exact same height. No metal in the ball. May be some in the rock. Terminal velocity. Thermodynamics again.

    Let’s apply for a $15,000,000.00 grant and we can go to work on this theory for a year. Next year add 15% for another grant.

    Because we have an iron core in the planet we have a magnetosphere which along with the ionosphere and ozone layer keeps us from cooking from the suns radiation. The magnetism of the planet is hurled outward away from the planet so it can not be the force that binds us here.

    A magnetosphere is that area of space, around a planet, that is controlled by the planet's magnetic field. The shape of the Earth's magnetosphere is the direct result of being blasted by solar wind. It prevents most of the particles from the Sun, carried in the solar wind, from hitting the Earth. The Sun and other planets have magnetospheres, but the Earth has the strongest one of all the rocky planets. The Earth's magnetosphere is a highly dynamic structure that responds dramatically to solar variations.

    The only outside forces acting upon the earth is the solar winds which are very dynamic. Changing constantly. Put a good part of Canada in darkness some years back messing up the electric grid. The earth moves up and down while in its rotation around the sun over a 30,000 year period I think from the highest part of the lift to the lowest part. We are now nearing the upper part of the rise and a lot of folks are very worried about the communication satellites and GPS as well as military stuff buzzing all around us up there. Your cell phone reception and yes even your wireless mouse to your computer connection is affected on a strong solar flare from the sun flinging out hundreds of thousands of miles into space. Not to mention the asteroids roaming about are most active in near earth misses & hits on the top of the rise. DUCK!

    So if you’re not hitting the ding, check out what the sun did 8 minutes before your shot. They are updated every 10 minutes by the ACE Space Craft. http://www.ips.gov.au/Solar/1/4

    As far as the rotation of the earth always moving with regards to the Philadelphia experiment, the action of the teleportation would be taking place faster than the speed of light. The earth rotates at 18,000 mph. The speed of light is 186,000 feet per second, so the original ship would not have moved from the original location on the earth on a horizontal plane. It was the vertical plane that did the damage. A wave can lift a ship a lot faster than the planet can rotate. Under the same analogy radio waves would never catch up to the receiver if the earth’s rotation affected such dynamics.

    I have never seen a movie about the experiment. I will look for one so I can be on the same page. I have a photo of the ship with all the wires and cables wrapped around it to generate the electrostatic charge they were believed to use to do the experiment. I am obviously interested in the experiment and have been but I am VERY reluctant to speak to much more about it. Everyone involved mysteriously met their demise except one man who has been lost and will remain that way, I’m sure.

    So I have no answer to what is gravity. The adage “if you remove all variables only the truth remains” applies here. We obviously have more variables to remove before the truth reveals itself.

     

  • PaulTon
    10,731 Posts
    Mon, Dec 16 2013 6:09 PM

    alexk345:
    I want to know 1kg how much it weigh in lagrange points in l4 and l5 

    An online golf forum is also the 1st place I'd go to looking for this.

    You know when you're so drunk that you have to crawl to bed? - That's gravity.

  • alexk345
    1,148 Posts
    Mon, Dec 16 2013 7:19 PM

    I thought golfers are brainy. Especially virtual ones. :)

  • ithurtswnipee
    891 Posts
    Mon, Dec 16 2013 9:23 PM

    PaulTon:

    alexk345:
    I want to know 1kg how much it weigh in lagrange points in l4 and l5 

    You know when you're so drunk that you have to crawl to bed? - That's gravity.

    Or once in you roll the wrong way an hit the floor. I think that is gavity too

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