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Rgs lower tiers

• LordDunne 41 Posts

  Sun, Dec 29 2013 7:24 AM

   

  tour pro RG high wind whistler b9 winner shoots a  27

  tour pro rg full 18 st andrews winner shoots a 55

   

  It saids that no scores are final until verified, so why can't wgt verify them? I am constantly being bumped up tier for shooting 35 and 69 in similar rgs yet these guys do not seem to be.

  I can understand a tour legend mastering courses and getting these scores, but not a tour pro. I am good at games but this is ridiculous.

  i simply do not get it, I have bought my credits and feel i should be reimbursed for this nonsense and obvious cheating.

  I would like to ask Wgt;

  1. What plans do you have to stop this?

  2. Can i have my money back because you are breaking your own terms and conditions?

  3. Can we not have an id check, as used in poker or many other sites, if you plan to play for credits? This would be the fairest thing to the honest player.

  4, Can you actually answer my questions?

   

  There are far to many cheats for me to do your job and investigate them all, you should look over your credit system entirely, it favours the cheats. It should at least favour the honest and the odd cheat gets through....

• WGTicon 12,511 Posts

  Sun, Dec 29 2013 2:40 PM

  hi

  can you please contact me privately or email us at members@worldgolftour.com and provide concrete examples of those scores so we can take a look.

  we rely on our community to find those who break the rules. it would not be possible to actively monitor every user or tournament, so please let us know as soon as you see them and we will take a look.

  -wgticon

• alosso 21,088 Posts

  Sun, Dec 29 2013 3:35 PM

  WGTicon:

  we rely on our community to find those who break the rules. it would not be possible to actively monitor every user or tournament

  This isn't true, is it?

  WGT approves every single tournament result and payout, and you say it's not your job to look into accounts when the scores are incredibly low? What are you doing instead? Count the rake?

  We had the subject of users, no, CC owners proposed as officers in anti-cheat squads, and the consent was NO - AFAIR. WGT has the domestic authority here, and they are supposed to protect the game's, i.e. their product's integrity.

  This path out of responsibility is too cheap IMNSHO.

• chrisironsbones 3,524 Posts

  Sun, Dec 29 2013 3:57 PM

  I think the OP is refering to a username (cant tell you it but a clue is ITS A black & white BIRD, and seeing one is unlucky, 2 is meant to be lucky, 3 is a boy and so on).  But this player has clearly crawled out of the woodwork from his/her usual legend/tour legend account and has taken advantage of the free rentals to play his/her 2ns account (member since november, first round in december all coinciding with free rentals.) And is now scoring low and wining every ready go they enter, but has stopped playing all of a sudden now free rentals is over.  WGT should give out more free rentals weekends because many cant resist topping up their 2nd accounts with free items to clean up tournaments.

• dacrash 475 Posts

  Sun, Dec 29 2013 4:09 PM

  WGTicon:

  we rely on our community to find those who break the rules. it would not be possible to actively monitor every user or tournament

  I find this a terrible cop out answer.  WGT has computers.  Use them.  Duh.  ALL tournaments and credit payout games should at least be scanned by software to spot possible issues and then a person/software can look into the incident further.

  Please don't insult us with cop out answers that don't make sense. Earn our respect by giving truthful answers.

  The lack of modern resources to give players easy access to complete game stats both past and current, and verifying results of tournaments that have finished (tournament closed 12/22/13, still hasn't been paid out.  Why?) is ridiculous.

  Now with The Golf Channel running commercials for virtual golf here on WGT I can only expect problems to multiply.  Hopefully, some of the new players can sway WGT to get with the program.  Update computer equipment and hire new/more programmers.  Be proactive WGT, it is always more profitable than damage control.

  I love the game, but find it harder to play each and every time I do try.

   

• LordDunne 41 Posts

  Sun, Dec 29 2013 4:40 PM

  chrisironsbones:

  I think the OP is refering to a username (cant tell you it but a clue is ITS A black & white BIRD, and seeing one is unlucky, 2 is meant to be lucky, 3 is a boy and so on).  But this player has clearly crawled out of the woodwork from his/her usual legend/tour legend account and has taken advantage of the free rentals to play his/her 2ns account (member since november, first round in december all coinciding with free rentals.) And is now scoring low and wining every ready go they enter, but has stopped playing all of a sudden now free rentals is over.  WGT should give out more free rentals weekends because many cant resist topping up their 2nd accounts with free items to clean up tournaments.

  I did not think of this, but I believe you have hit the nail firmly on the head.

• geraldlarousse 1,986 Posts

  Sun, Dec 29 2013 8:14 PM

  alosso:

  WGTicon:

  we rely on our community to find those who break the rules. it would not be possible to actively monitor every user or tournament

  This isn't true, is it?

  WGT approves every single tournament result and payout, and you say it's not your job to look into accounts when the scores are incredibly low? What are you doing instead? Count the rake?

  We had the subject of users, no, CC owners proposed as officers in anti-cheat squads, and the consent was NO - AFAIR. WGT has the domestic authority here, and they are supposed to protect the game's, i.e. their product's integrity.

  This path out of responsibility is too cheap IMNSHO.

  +1 Alosso

  Main problem i see....... in order to protect the games integrity.... the people in charge need to have integrity themselves....no??

  Shame,,,, but i don't see any at all.  Bottom line they are going to pay out said tourneys..... to a cheat or honest player. To them doesn't matter which one..... cost the same amount.

  It is quite obvious they choose to do nothing. And......... you would be correct again Alosso,,,, the path is way to cheap. But...... does WGT do it any other way??

  WGT is not worried about Multi accounts. Actually i think they encourage it. Makes them more money.

  If was worried about integrity....... this game would be nothing like this. No???

• alosso 21,088 Posts

  Mon, Dec 30 2013 1:58 AM

  A good customer's view and impression, Gerald!

  I'd make one exception: The company's integrity is in question
  while the people, their employees, only follow their missions.

• mantis0014 8,946 Posts

  Mon, Dec 30 2013 2:34 AM

  LordDunne:

  chrisironsbones:

  I think the OP is refering to a username (cant tell you it but a clue is ITS A black & white BIRD, and seeing one is unlucky, 2 is meant to be lucky, 3 is a boy and so on).  But this player has clearly crawled out of the woodwork from his/her usual legend/tour legend account and has taken advantage of the free rentals to play his/her 2ns account (member since november, first round in december all coinciding with free rentals.) And is now scoring low and wining every ready go they enter, but has stopped playing all of a sudden now free rentals is over.  WGT should give out more free rentals weekends because many cant resist topping up their 2nd accounts with free items to clean up tournaments.

  I did not think of this, but I believe you have hit the nail firmly on the head.

  Would these people play M/Play or maybe Skins games too.

  I'm starting to think the people at  Wgt we all use to know, is not running the game anymore and other people have taken their place.

  -Roger

• courteneyfish 15,796 Posts

  Mon, Dec 30 2013 2:46 AM

  My advice to the OP would be to avoid tournaments that you have to pay to enter until you reach the Legend level. There will always be a low-life unfairly making their way to the top of the lower tier leader-boards. 

  Playing in Country Club tournaments give you a much better chance of winning, just don't beat me, ok? :-)