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Thu, Jan 2 2014 6:44 AM (25 replies)
  • slillico
    393 Posts
    Mon, Dec 30 2013 4:55 AM

    LordDunne:
    I am constantly being bumped up tier for shooting 35 and 69 in similar rgs yet these guys do not seem to be.

    Sorry I must of missed something, because i do not see this in the history of this account.

    An almost dormant account comes rolling in a few weeks ago and plays the rg's as a pro, plays 8 or nine rg's and a few other ranked rounds and gets promoted. That's the rules now, where exactly is the problem.

    Plus that's once, certainly not constantly. But I know what's going on here.

    I have poker accounts all over the world, and i also have several on some sites, what check do they actually have, and I was never aware that poker sites prohibited more than 1 account and they have accepted my same credit card on multiple accounts. But things could of changed, it's been a few years, I stopped playing as they are clearly rigged.

    What exactly is WGT supposed to do here.

    1. Require a credit card. (There goes all the "play for free" advertising and also who only has 1 credit card or 1 at all.)

    2. IP address, 1 account per IP. (Since my ip changes every few days, as well I can change mine at will to anywhere in the world with my world wide VPN, what exactly could they do here, and would it not be easily worked around.)

    3. 1 computer 1 account, doable, (but there are so many multiple computer households in addition this could be easily worked around on a single computer.)

    Which leaves WGT with only 1 option, and 1 that seems to be suggested, shoot good within a certain time period or at a certain tier and the account is closed. Define good, define time, and would it change when new equipment became available. Sorry but I would think there is a fundamental problem with this thinking. In the western world we have a system in place that essentially says it's better to let a guilty person go free then jail an innocent 1. I'm not into jailing some poor sob because he hit a hot round with good equipment from a forward tee box.

    I played here since 2009, I'm an average player, played my way up to legend, never was able to compete very well until I hit the Legend tier, and learned to play that tier, and finally when I hit level 90 and the r11's that changed my game.

    For me Legend and above, level 90 and above is where it's at, they win everything, all the big tournaments, the game is the most fun and the most fair from that tee deck.

    IMHO, WGT is doing it right, right now, rapid promotion to the Legend tee deck for anyone displaying skills and playing for credits at lower tiers. The lower tiers is like the jungle full of cheaters, MA's, etc. Fight your way out of it, get to Legend and the back tee boxes and the better golfer, better player wins. It's way more fair and a lot less concerns about what is going on in the lower tiers.Well unless they happen to be playing in lower tiers.

    Let face it, we have legends and above far to concerned with what is going on at lower tiers, the lower tiers are full of Legends that could not make a go of the back tee box and went back into the jungle, but again, that decision IMHO is a mistake, far more enjoyment can be garnered here just learning the back tee box and sticking with it.

    So in my summary we have plenty of people trying to play for free with all the best equipment, have average skills and are looking for any advantage, and an easily worked around rule change is exactly the advantage they are looking for. I'm not immediately buying the suggestions and question the real motives behind them, sorry if it's deemed offensive, but it is what it is. It's an overly obvious option for some average player looking to be the latest shark at the top of the food chain.

    I would suggest if you want to play for free or next to free while remaining an average player, check out the earn credits tab, making suggestions in an attempt to remove the better players from the lower tiers is the wrong way to go, the sharks would be free to eat us then and it's just not possible and any solution makes it worse for WGT and the rest of us. So either get better or watch some videos.

    In addition I have absolutely completely and totally no sympathy for any Legends being beat in a MPC by a level 90 TP. Buyer beware, most of us would not buy green meat, but there are those that do, and what can anyone do to save them.

    Take care and happy New Year.

  • LordDunne
    41 Posts
    Mon, Dec 30 2013 7:42 AM
    Thanks for responses. Courtney I will play more cc tourneys instead!
    One last point for Wgt though, is the guy who came 1st in this rg i just played
    If you look at his activity history, he has sent loads of level up boosts and loads of equipment beyond his level, including full iron set to someone. Yet he uses all starter stuff and is very low levelled. Surely it would be easy to see who he sent all this stuff to? I mean sending that many level up boosts and clubs.....
  • LordDunne
    41 Posts
    Mon, Dec 30 2013 8:57 AM

    slillico:

    LordDunne:
    I am constantly being bumped up tier for shooting 35 and 69 in similar rgs yet these guys do not seem to be.

    Sorry I must of missed something, because i do not see this in the history of this account.

    An almost dormant account comes rolling in a few weeks ago and plays the rg's as a pro, plays 8 or nine rg's and a few other ranked rounds and gets promoted. That's the rules now, where exactly is the problem.

    Plus that's once, certainly not constantly. But I know what's going on here.

    I have poker accounts all over the world, and i also have several on some sites, what check do they actually have, and I was never aware that poker sites prohibited more than 1 account and they have accepted my same credit card on multiple accounts. But things could of changed, it's been a few years, I stopped playing as they are clearly rigged.

    What exactly is WGT supposed to do here.

    1. Require a credit card. (There goes all the "play for free" advertising and also who only has 1 credit card or 1 at all.)

    2. IP address, 1 account per IP. (Since my ip changes every few days, as well I can change mine at will to anywhere in the world with my world wide VPN, what exactly could they do here, and would it not be easily worked around.)

    3. 1 computer 1 account, doable, (but there are so many multiple computer households in addition this could be easily worked around on a single computer.)

    Which leaves WGT with only 1 option, and 1 that seems to be suggested, shoot good within a certain time period or at a certain tier and the account is closed. Define good, define time, and would it change when new equipment became available. Sorry but I would think there is a fundamental problem with this thinking. In the western world we have a system in place that essentially says it's better to let a guilty person go free then jail an innocent 1. I'm not into jailing some poor sob because he hit a hot round with good equipment from a forward tee box.

    I played here since 2009, I'm an average player, played my way up to legend, never was able to compete very well until I hit the Legend tier, and learned to play that tier, and finally when I hit level 90 and the r11's that changed my game.

    For me Legend and above, level 90 and above is where it's at, they win everything, all the big tournaments, the game is the most fun and the most fair from that tee deck.

    IMHO, WGT is doing it right, right now, rapid promotion to the Legend tee deck for anyone displaying skills and playing for credits at lower tiers. The lower tiers is like the jungle full of cheaters, MA's, etc. Fight your way out of it, get to Legend and the back tee boxes and the better golfer, better player wins. It's way more fair and a lot less concerns about what is going on in the lower tiers.Well unless they happen to be playing in lower tiers.

    Let face it, we have legends and above far to concerned with what is going on at lower tiers, the lower tiers are full of Legends that could not make a go of the back tee box and went back into the jungle, but again, that decision IMHO is a mistake, far more enjoyment can be garnered here just learning the back tee box and sticking with it.

    So in my summary we have plenty of people trying to play for free with all the best equipment, have average skills and are looking for any advantage, and an easily worked around rule change is exactly the advantage they are looking for. I'm not immediately buying the suggestions and question the real motives behind them, sorry if it's deemed offensive, but it is what it is. It's an overly obvious option for some average player looking to be the latest shark at the top of the food chain.

    I would suggest if you want to play for free or next to free while remaining an average player, check out the earn credits tab, making suggestions in an attempt to remove the better players from the lower tiers is the wrong way to go, the sharks would be free to eat us then and it's just not possible and any solution makes it worse for WGT and the rest of us. So either get better or watch some videos.

    In addition I have absolutely completely and totally no sympathy for any Legends being beat in a MPC by a level 90 TP. Buyer beware, most of us would not buy green meat, but there are those that do, and what can anyone do to save them.

    Take care and happy New Year.

     

    1. I only said players that enter payed tournaments i.e matchplay and ready gos. They could still advertise as a free game.

    2. I said nothing of ip but rather a passport or id check such as they do as pokerstars (for credit players). This would not stop all multis but you would get rid of 90%.

    3. see 2

     

    My problem is i buy credits, and equipment pay to enter tournaments and then feel cheated when always the first 2-3 scores are 10 strokes lower than anyone else's in the tourney and a quick glance at there profile reveals they are obvious multis and send out clubs and boosts.

    I do not mind paying for the game, i do mine being robbed and WGT doing nothing about it.

    You question my motives? you are absurd. my motives are simple dindas head ; i buy credits and equipment, i pay to enter tournaments but must always rule out the top 3 or so places as they are consistently cheats. 

    You do seem offensive. I spend much more than i make here. Also all your ideas are whack.

  • WGTadmin
    1,166 Posts
    Mon, Dec 30 2013 12:34 PM

    Thank you for reporting this matter so that we can investigate.

  • slillico
    393 Posts
    Mon, Dec 30 2013 2:40 PM

    LordDunne:
    You do seem offensive. I spend much more than i make here. Also all your ideas are whack.

    Maybe I do, but if the shoe fits, you come rolling in after 3 years of inactivity and start complaining about lower tiers. Your present behavior is so typical of someone who has spent the last 3 years playing another account.

    How about you enlighten us on your comments regarding "I am constantly being bumped up tier"

    Which idea is whack, I and others suggest you do what each and every other honest player did, buy equipment, spend money and slog your way to legend status where the problems of the lower tiers go away.

    I have accounts at pokerstars, I'm not clear on what they actually do to ensure there are no multiple accounts, enlighten me, because in my experience, they did nothing at all and have exactly the same issue with multiple accounts.

    I was trying to point out to you, it's pointless, WGT already does a great job and has implemented steps to quickly promote credit playing players in addition they will delete accounts if reported as MA's, they have some tools.

    Short of retina scans and fingerprint enabled mice, WTH else can they do.

    If you want an honest game, try candy crush or stick with CC games.

    Identifying a problem that's been around since the beginning without identifying a solution is pointless. I'm just trying to be honest and state the facts, there is no solution on the present platform, none. Mentioning poker sites do it, is misguided as well.

    So, I have seen your version of proof now, "If you look at his activity history, he has sent loads of level up boosts and loads of equipment beyond his level, including full iron set to someone." So given that lets look at sebicu as well. It's ridiculous to assume someone is a multi accounter because he gifted someone and is currently sitting on starters, how exactly do you now he played the RG's with starters? They were played during a free rental period and who knows what is sitting in someones inventory. That account has been around and played about as much as you as well. It certainly looks as if he was setting up another account, but it could be anybody from friend to relative to his dog.And the 58 on that course, those tees, top equipment, 10 eagle chances, but nice of you to report someone because he beat you, feel better now.

    On another note, I do however notice the ipad iphone users can play, I have no experience playing on an ipad, but ipads used to not play flash, has that changed, or is WGT still played in flash on the iphone ipad?

  • LordDunne
    41 Posts
    Tue, Dec 31 2013 11:55 AM

    your such a nerd. you think know it all, you know nothing.

    I started in 2010 cause i was unemployed. Played a few times got a job. Work is slow for me this winter as i am a climbing instructor....and then stumbled across this game again, (saw advert when i was on the golf channel, if you must know) Your assumption is because i have not played in 3 years then complain about low scores i am a multi...your an idiot. Check me out please, I spend way more than i make, I have not sent gifts (except prize i offered in CC)  or received any (except from my CC boss), I buy my own equipment and my scores are super average etc etc.etc

    I complain about cheats because i have a right to and most agree with me. Your a troll. Instead of concentrating your long pointless posts on me, go after the actual cheats who are so obvious you will not need speculate, and then look a ass.

  • chrisironsbones
    3,524 Posts
    Tue, Dec 31 2013 1:04 PM

    LordDunne:

    Thanks for responses. Courtney I will play more cc tourneys instead!
    One last point for Wgt though, is the guy who came 1st in this rg i just played
    If you look at his activity history, he has sent loads of level up boosts and loads of equipment beyond his level, including full iron set to someone. Yet he uses all starter stuff and is very low levelled. Surely it would be easy to see who he sent all this stuff to? I mean sending that many level up boosts and clubs.....

    This player is exactly what i was talking about, some one who only plays 2nd account when free rentals is on.  BLATANT..lol

    What would be so difficult when we join to include a photo ID of some sort to prove who we are.  If i send a copy of driving licence, It would be difficult for me to open 2nd account.  (unless i have friends who might supply me with their Id)  But although not fool proof Its yet another deterent

  • alcaucin
    9,041 Posts
    Tue, Dec 31 2013 1:40 PM

    chrisironsbones:
    What would be so difficult when we join to include a photo ID of some sort to prove who we are.  If i send a copy of driving licence, It would be difficult for me to open 2nd account.  (unless i have friends who might supply me with their Id)

    See 'Slillico' post for the answer to that !!

    About the only person who makes sense on this, emotive ( for some ) issue.

     

     

    Try again Chris..less BS needed...or you been VEM'D again ?

    C.I.B. ??

    Chats. Inane. Bo.....   ( I'll let you fill in the rest )

    Andy

  • slillico
    393 Posts
    Tue, Dec 31 2013 3:39 PM

    chrisironsbones:
    What would be so difficult when we join to include a photo ID of some sort to prove who we are.  If i send a copy of driving licence, It would be difficult for me to open 2nd account.  (unless i have friends who might supply me with their Id)  But although not fool proof Its yet another deterent

    I'd be with you there, BUT, I have a 20 year old, 19 and 18 year old, believe me when i tell you I have a unlimited sources of fake ID's, these kids have been producing them for years, plus they are not getting originals anyway.

    You just need to realize Chris, on this present platform, there is little more that they can do that they are not already doing and they are doing way more then most companies would and should be given credit for their hard work and dedication to the issue.

    Rapid promotion was and is a good automated answer to this issue, plus deletion of the obvious accounts when reported.

    Some solution with an easy work around is crazy, the sharks would have a field day, but that is exactly what the sharks want, less competition in the lower tiers. Please see this for what it is, the true motives behind these requests only thinly veiled in legitimate, fools plenty, but then again 50% voted republican so who's surprised.

    Suppose for a second they went with your suggestion, then day 1 some guy shoots lights out, he went through the check, it's a legit individual ID, what is WGT going to do, close the account. After passing the test, they close the account without any refund after someone has jumped their hoops. See any problem there? Guess what, the account stays open, the guy cleans up, what's changed, what's been fixed, who benefited from the change. These requests do not have me fooled for a second.

    Happy New Year everyone.

  • slillico
    393 Posts
    Tue, Dec 31 2013 3:53 PM

    LordDunne:
    I complain about cheats because i have a right to and most agree with me. Your a troll. Instead of concentrating your long pointless posts on me, go after the actual cheats who are so obvious you will not need speculate, and then look a ass.

    If you were reading what I say, I'm doing just that.

    So this is nice and short, how about you enlighten us on your comments regarding "I am constantly being bumped up tier"

    You made it easy to make the observation I made, you made the comment, who else would say that if it were not true. It's likely true, just not on this account, you f'ed up, not me, i just looked and made the observation and stated the obvious.

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