andyson: You should update your proposal to clarify these changes.
I'm just here to discuss it andyson, I don't see a need to bring a proposal forward until WGT shows any interest in addressing the quitting/sandbagging issues.
andyson: You're supposed to leave your buddies waiting while you are forced to complete the solo round? Too harsh removing the end game option.
To take care of quitters, this is a condition I would happily live with, and as I stated in the last post, it would force people to pay much closer attention when setting a game up. I also believe that the number of scenarios like this are a much smaller %age of quitting as compared to score manipulators. The forum posts about it seem to support that. I'd much rather handle the larger problem, than not address it because of the small %'age of 'ooops' moments.
andyson: In addition, your proposal does nothing to prevent quitting in multi-player practice rounds.
That was by design, I don't think a forced finish on a non-ranked round is appropriate.
andyson: Finally, your proposal and Faterson's for that matter do nothing to curtail posting posting artificially high scores by a sandbagger in a multi-player ranked round.
True, but the fact that each and every score must be posted will make it easier to track this behavior, and to act upon it. Whereas allowing ranked rounds to be dropped without a score being posted allows score manipulation in both directions, with no chance of catching those who use these tactics.
andyson: Ooops one other point, your proposal ends all unlimited tournaments as well, no? I'd hate to see those disappear.
if they quit, yes; as it should. In fact, that system is ALREADY in place.
andyson: The solution to score/tier manipulation lies in how averages are computed and how promotions to the next tier are made. I believe WGT is working in that direction.
I don't agree with this. Letting players quit rounds and not post those scores allows the players to determine their tier progression. tier progression computations are definitely a part of this, but this part is being circumvented right now, through quitting. This is why ending quitting is the only real way to address it, I believe.
Thanks again for your thoughts, I appreciate the open and constructive dialog.
VHL